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Peter Sammon wrote:

> Ronnie McKinley <mckinley@nowherenet.org> wrote in
> news:bpbk20lep1h0cljrd10q04qtobhl5h9s0g@4ax.com:
> 
>> In uk.rec.audio  AlanEdgey@aol.com (Alan Edgey) wrote:
>> 
>>>Joseph Oberlander <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:<e_bWb.18840$F23.9975@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
>>>> Peter Sammon wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > Ronnie McKinley <mckinley@nowherenet.org> wrote in
>>>> > news:758i20l2retk3vqo0sldpi6dv6972b68te@4ax.com:
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> >>In uk.rec.audio  Peter Sammon <camman722@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>What I find humorous in the US is the number of "faux" Irish who
>>>> >>>aren't Catholic;
>>>> >>
>>>> >>So one has to be Catholic to be true Irish?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>LOL
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Spoken like a true faux-Irishman.
>>>> > 
>>>> > *Real* Irishman are Catholic. Any other has give up what much of
>>>> > what it means- historically and culturally- to be Irish. For
>>>> > centuries Catholicism was at the heart of the Irish struggle
>>>> > against Britain much like Catholicism was the heart of the Polish
>>>> > struggle against communism during the cold war.
>>>> > 
>>>> > You CAN call yourself Irish and be Baptist, Methodist etc., but
>>>> > let's face it, you're then only of Irish descent and not
>>>> > culturally Irish. I speak of course of the legions of "gee I'm
>>>> > Irish" in the US of course. If you're Irish in Cork and converted
>>>> > to Protestantism you're a friggin' traitor. ;-)
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> >>>think being Scots-Irish means they are part Irish, part
>>>> >>>Scottish;
>>>> >>
>>>> >  <snip>
>>>> > 
>>>> > I think you've missed something here. In Ireland Scots-Irish call
>>>> > themselves NOT Irish, but Ulster Scots [Brits please correct me if
>>>> > I'm off]. They are the protestants of Northern Ireland. Ulster
>>>> > Scots are descendent from the Scottish Presbytarians who migrated
>>>> > there in the 17/18 century.
>>>> 
>>>> What would they call the original Catholic Scots-Irish(non Ulster)
>>>> in the same area, then?  Just curious.
>>>
>>>Ulster Scots. Among the Scots speaking immigrants from Scotland there
>>>were Catholics.
>> 
>> And furthermore great numbers of these Scot immigrants were direct
>> descents of the original peoples of the north of Ireland (Ulster)
>> who had migrated to Scot-land centuries before.
>> 
>>>This idea that Scots-Irish is only a presbetarian thing is flawed.
>>>Though no doubt there are sectarian biggots who'll abuse anything to
>>>justify their twisted ends.
>> 
>> Absolutely. Backward thinking late 19th century sectarian politics.
>> It has been the name of the games for the last 30 years.
> 
> Well now, next you'll be telling us Yanks that upper-class English males
> really *aren't* all homosexuals.
> ;-))

Prince Charles has by all accounts been giving Camilla a serious seeing to
for many a year. He may be many things but he is not a poof.

Ian

Ian