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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:00:04 +0100, "Pete       �(���)�"
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>On 11 Apr 2007 16:25:14 -0700, "Holly" <noon_union@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 11, 3:15�pm, "Pete       �(���)�" <farmingfa...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:30:17 +0100, Malcolm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <YIydnRpto5INhYDbRVny...@bt.com>, Pat Gardiner
>>> ><patgardi...@btinternet.com> writes
>>> >>Some of you will realise that I had a big problem a few days ago when,
>>> >>unexpectedly to me, the world famous British Library, of Karl Marx fame,
>>> >>shut down as an ISP.
>>>
>>> >>They were the only government ISP - and very good they were too, as you
>>> >>would expect. They hosted Self-Sufficiency in Style
>>>
>>> >>To be prefectly frank there was total panic in my heart. Readers who have
>>> >>known me for years were out of touch. Not least, those official bodies that
>>> >>use me as a source of reliable information.
>>>
>>> >Yes, Pat, of course, Pat. You're absolutely right, Pat. Everyone knows
>>> >that you are a source of reliable information.
>>>
>>> Of course you're right, but do I detect some jealousy?
>>>
>>> >>but you will all
>>> >>recall I have long told you, you were all being very closely watched by a
>>> >>huge range of regulatory bodies, here and abroad.
>>>
>>> >Oh yes, we remember all right. Indeed, you keep repeating it, mentioning
>>> >"watchers" and "monitors" and other mysterious beings. I don't recall
>>> >you mentioning the "huge range" before, but doubtless you can
>>> >substantiate this escalation in your claim.
>>>
>>> Speaking of claims. Do you remember when you copied Konters book on
>>> grebes and got caught out, after making all sorts of false claims/
>>> Just before you were booted out of the RSPB for being a liar and
>>> fraud, and demon.local as it happens.
>>>
>>> Here it is in case you forgot....
>>>
>>> Message from discussion Malcolm gets a kicking
>>>
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>>> Malcolm � �View profile
>>> � More options 29 Nov 2002, 23:46 �
>>>
>>> Newsgroups: demon.local, uk.environment.conservation,
>>> talk.politics.animals, uk.rec.birdwatching, uk.rec.natural-history
>>> From: Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 22:47:55 +0000
>>> Local: Fri 29 Nov 2002 23:47
>>> Subject: Malcolm gets a kicking
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>>> In article <qqn9uusrsb9ink562o7197q9ka4fbdj...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>>> <paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>>
>>> >This one would make a nice present - well illustrated by an author
>>> >with first hand knowledge.
>>> >http://www.hbw.com/phtml/llibreLynx.phtml?codi=MON0001
>>> >'Twould look nice on my shelves!
>>>
>>> Thank you, Paul.
>>>
>>> I shall refrain from wondering too much about your motives in suddenly
>>> publicising the above - I don't remember you ever recommending a book
>>> before - just a couple of days after you learnt that my own book
>>> entitled 'Grebes of the World' has just been published. However, I'm
>>> grateful for the opportunity to say that my book is available fromwww.nhbs.comand other suppliers.
>>>
>>> It is a very different book from the above, being a large-format
>>> volume
>>> of 24 stunning plates by Chris Rose, one of our leading wildlife
>>> artists, who has observed grebes across the world and who suggested
>>> the
>>> project to a publisher. While I haven't seen quite all the species
>>> Chris
>>> has, the publisher was kind enough to ask me to write an accompanying
>>> text in the form of a series of essays, rather than follow a strict
>>> 'handbook' format, together with a longish introduction covering all
>>> the
>>> main aspects of grebes' lives. Appendices contain the basic biological
>>> information about each species, together with explanations of the
>>> derivations of the English and scientific names, something of a hobby
>>> of
>>> mine.
>>>
>>> It will indeed look very nice indeed on anyone's shelves - if you can
>>> afford it :-))
>>>
>>> --
>>> Malcolm
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Thank you, Paul.
>>>
>>> Don't mention it. I was a little surprised that you didn't come across
>>> it in your extensive research though �(-:
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Rooney
>>>
>>> Quotes of the year from demon.local:
>>> "You *will* either disappear or post with a sig of
>>> 4 lines or less. There is no third possibility."
>>> "Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert!"
>>>
>>> In article <ef0auuc8mn9pe9lkcnhiqol8omlrb4n...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>>> <paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>>
>>> >On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:44:23 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>Thank you, Paul.
>>> >Don't mention it. I was a little surprised that you didn't come across
>>> >it in your extensive research though �(-:
>>>
>>> You shouldn't jump to conclusions. And you shouldn't try and score
>>> points when you don't have all the facts. Do you know anything about
>>> it
>>> at all except what you read in the advert?
>>>
>>> I have a copy. Have you?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Malcolm
>>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 17:56:58 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <ef0auuc8mn9pe9lkcnhiqol8omlrb4n...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>>> ><paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>> >>On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:44:23 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> >>wrote:
>>> >>>Thank you, Paul.
>>> >>Don't mention it. I was a little surprised that you didn't come across
>>> >>it in your extensive research though �(-:
>>> >You shouldn't jump to conclusions.
>>>
>>> Did I jump to the wrong conclusion? It's just that you did say yours
>>> was the first ever book on the subject, so I not unreasonably
>>> concluded that you were unaware of the earlier work.
>>> Humble apologies if I have got the wrong end of the stick.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Rooney
>>>
>>> Quotes of the year from demon.local:
>>> "You *will* either disappear or post with a sig of
>>> 4 lines or less. There is no third possibility."
>>> "Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert!"
>>>
>>> In article <5l3auucau0o6j9n6dv0cnl0oiacm2om...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>>> <paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>>
>>> >On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 17:56:58 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>In article <ef0auuc8mn9pe9lkcnhiqol8omlrb4n...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>>> >><paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>> >>>On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:44:23 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> >>>wrote:
>>> >>>>Thank you, Paul.
>>> >>>Don't mention it. I was a little surprised that you didn't come across
>>> >>>it in your extensive research though �(-:
>>> >>You shouldn't jump to conclusions.
>>> >Did I jump to the wrong conclusion? It's just that you did say yours
>>> >was the first ever book on the subject, so I not unreasonably
>>> >concluded that you were unaware of the earlier work.
>>> >Humble apologies if I have got the wrong end of the stick.
>>>
>>> You did. Apology accepted.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Malcolm
>>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:49:43 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >In article <5l3auucau0o6j9n6dv0cnl0oiacm2om...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>>> ><paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>> >>On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 17:56:58 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> >>wrote:
>>> >>>In article <ef0auuc8mn9pe9lkcnhiqol8omlrb4n...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>>> >>><paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>> >>>>On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:44:23 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> >>>>wrote:
>>> >>>>>Thank you, Paul.
>>> >>>>Don't mention it. I was a little surprised that you didn't come across
>>> >>>>it in your extensive research though �(-:
>>> >>>You shouldn't jump to conclusions.
>>> >>Did I jump to the wrong conclusion? It's just that you did say yours
>>> >>was the first ever book on the subject, so I not unreasonably
>>> >>concluded that you were unaware of the earlier work.
>>> >>Humble apologies if I have got the wrong end of the stick.
>>> >You did. Apology accepted.
>>>
>>> Good-oh!
>>> So just to be clear - what did you mean when you said yours was the
>>> first book ever devoted to this particular group of birds?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Rooney
>>>
>>> Quotes of the year from demon.local:
>>> "You *will* either disappear or post with a sig of
>>> 4 lines or less. There is no third possibility."
>>> "Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert!"
>>>
>>> "Paul Rooney" <paulroo...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> > >>Did I jump to the wrong conclusion? It's just that you did say yours
>>> > >>was the first ever book on the subject, so I not unreasonably
>>> > >>concluded that you were unaware of the earlier work.
>>> > >>Humble apologies if I have got the wrong end of the stick.
>>> > >You did. Apology accepted.
>>> > Good-oh!
>>> > So just to be clear - what did you mean when you said yours was the
>>> > first book ever devoted to this particular group of birds?
>>> > Paul Rooney
>>>
>>> ROFL :-)
>>>
>>> <msdl20...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >ROFL :-)
>>>
>>> You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
>>> Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
>>> My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
>>> and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
>>> is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.
>>>
>>> Malcolm
>>>
>>> In article <vphauuo4g5p251r6l9l1hf7re8kblda...@4ax.com>,
>>> M...@indaal.demon.co.uk says...
>>>
>>> > On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 22:13:50 -0000, "peter kook"
>>> > <msdl20...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> > >ROFL :-)
>>> > You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
>>> > Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
>>> > My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
>>> > and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
>>> > is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.
>>> > Malcolm
>>>
>>> KONTER (Andre) - Grebes of our World. Visiting all Species on Five
>>> Continents - 2001, 8vo. 187pp. Colour photographs, line drawings. �A
>>> description of the 22 species of grebes, their natural history,
>>> ecology
>>> and behaviour.
>>>
>>> Grebes of the World
>>> Malcolm Ogilvie
>>> The book starts with an authoritative introduction on the origin,
>>> evolution, distribution, physiology and behaviour of grebes, followed
>>> by
>>> accounts of each of the 22 species
>>>
>>> Malcolm it looks as though Konter might dispute that statement!
>>> --
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> In article <MPG.184f5eb42c4e3237989...@news.freeserve.net>, Rob Jack
>>> <kcajbornos...@lineone.net> writes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >In article <vphauuo4g5p251r6l9l1hf7re8kblda...@4ax.com>,
>>> >M...@indaal.demon.co.uk says...
>>> >> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 22:13:50 -0000, "peter kook"
>>> >> <msdl20...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >> >ROFL :-)
>>> >> You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
>>> >> Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
>>> >> My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
>>> >> and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
>>> >> is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.
>>> >> Malcolm
>>> >KONTER (Andre) - Grebes of our World. Visiting all Species on Five
>>> >Continents - 2001, 8vo. 187pp. Colour photographs, line drawings. �A
>>> >description of the 22 species of grebes, their natural history, ecology
>>> >and behaviour.
>>> >Grebes of the World
>>> >Malcolm Ogilvie
>>> >The book starts with an authoritative introduction on the origin,
>>> >evolution, distribution, physiology and behaviour of grebes, followed by
>>> >accounts of each of the 22 species
>>> >Malcolm it looks as though Konter might dispute that statement!
>>>
>>> Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter,
>>> but
>>> please note that you are replying to a forged message.
>>>
>>> Can I advise that people look at the headers of any messages
>>> purporting
>>> to come from me, now that Pete has started forging people's names and
>>> e-mail addresses again. The above message ID ends in @4ax. I post
>>> through Demon so mine end in @indaal.demon.co.uk, the same as my
>>> e-mail
>>> address. You'll also note that the forged message didn't have a
>>> Reply-to
>>> header line. Mine do.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Malcolm Ogilvie
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter, but
>>> >please note that you are replying to a forged message.
>>>
>>> You're not the first academic to propagate an untruth in order to look
>>> good, and I doubt you'll be the last. A bit shabby though,
>>> particularly as it took you so long to own up.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Rooney
>>>
>>> Quotes of the year from demon.local:
>>> "You *will* either disappear or post with a sig of
>>> 4 lines or less. There is no third possibility."
>>> "Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert!"
>>>
>>> In article <6bsbuusm6dbrucb08dsh9purbq2l7ca...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>>> <paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>>
>>> >On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:01:13 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter, but
>>> >>please note that you are replying to a forged message.
>>> >You're not the first academic to propagate an untruth in order to look
>>> >good, and I doubt you'll be the last. A bit shabby though,
>>> >particularly as it took you so long to own up.
>>>
>>> Hmm, I think you should look to your own behaviour before rushing to
>>> criticise others.
>>>
>>> The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the
>>> book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup where I wasn't
>>> advertising the book and didn't even give the title of the book or the
>>> name of the publisher. You then chose to introduce the subject of
>>> books
>>> on grebes to this newsgroup by suggesting the other book as a good
>>> Christmas present without mentioning mine. This deliberate, even
>>> shabby,
>>> action of yours was perhaps not unconnected with the fact that, having
>>> a
>>> little while ago accidentally discovered, via a crosspost, the
>>> newsgroup
>>> in which I had posted my piece, you set about being deliberately
>>> disruptive, flooding it with nearly 700 messages in just four weeks,
>>> for
>>> which behaviour you have been rightly criticised by myself and many
>>> other regulars of that newsgroup.
>>>
>>> BTW, that's twice you've called me an academic. Why? It is my
>>> understanding that academics work in universities. I don't and never
>>> have.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Malcolm
>>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:22:13 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <6bsbuusm6dbrucb08dsh9purbq2l7ca...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>>> ><paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>> >>On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:01:13 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>> >>wrote:
>>> >>>Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter, but
>>> >>>please note that you are replying to a forged message.
>>> >>You're not the first academic to propagate an untruth in order to look
>>> >>good, and I doubt you'll be the last. A bit shabby though,
>>> >>particularly as it took you so long to own up.
>>> >Hmm, I think you should look to your own behaviour before rushing to
>>> >criticise others.
>>> >The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the
>>> >book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup where I wasn't
>>> >advertising the book and didn't even give the title of the book or the
>>> >name of the publisher.
>>>
>>> You clearly and explicitly stated that yours was the first book on the
>>> subject, in the full knowledge that the topic had recently been
>>> covered very thoroughly in Konter's book.
>>> The facts speak for themselves. You are a liar who only had the grace
>>> to own up when you had been found out - you even persisted in giving
>>> the impression that you were the first to write it *after* I had drawn
>>> attention to your untruth. Your apology comes a little late.
>>> You do yourself no credit in introducing other, wholly irrelevant
>>> matters in order to deflect criticism from your behaviour. Shame on
>>> you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Rooney
>>>
>>> Quotes of the year from demon.local:
>>> "You *will* either disappear or post with a sig of
>>> 4 lines or less. There is no third possibility."
>>> "Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Malcolm" <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> > Hmm, I think you should look to your own behaviour before rushing to
>>> > criticise others.
>>> > The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the
>>> > book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup where I wasn't
>>> > advertising the book and didn't even give the title of the book or the
>>> > name of the publisher. You then chose to introduce the subject of books
>>> > on grebes to this newsgroup by suggesting the other book as a good
>>> > Christmas present without mentioning mine. This deliberate, even shabby,
>>> > action of yours was perhaps not unconnected with the fact that, having a
>>> > little while ago accidentally discovered, via a crosspost, the newsgroup
>>> > in which I had posted my piece, you set about being deliberately
>>> > disruptive, flooding it with nearly 700 messages in just four weeks, for
>>> > which behaviour you have been rightly criticised by myself and many
>>> > other regulars of that newsgroup.
>>> > BTW, that's twice you've called me an academic. Why? It is my
>>> > understanding that academics work in universities. I don't and never
>>> > have.
>>> > --
>>> > Malcolm
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!
>>>
>>> PRAYER FOR A NATION
>>>
>>> When Pastor Joe Wright, of Central Christian Church, was asked
>>> to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting
>>> �the usual politically correct generalities.
>>> But what they heard instead was this:
>>>
>>> Heavenly Father, we come before You today to ask Your forgiveness
>>> and seek your direction and guidance.
>>> We know Your Word says,
>>> �Woe on those who call evil good,� but that�s exactly what we have done.
>>> We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values.
>>>
>>> We confess that:
>>>
>>> We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism;
>>>
>>> We have, worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism;
>>>
>>> We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle;
>>>
>>> We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery;
>>>
>>> We have neglected the needy and called it self-preservation;
>>>
>>> We have killed our unborn and called it choice;
>>>
>>> We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem;
>>>
>>> We have abused power and called it political savvy;
>>>
>>> We have coveted our neighbour�s possessions and called it ambition;
>>>
>>> We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression;
>>>
>>> We have ridiculed the time-honoured values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.
>>>
>>> Search us, 0 God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us;
>>> cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have
>>> been sent here by the people of Kansas, and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state.
>>>
>>> Grant them Your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the centre of Your will. I ask it in the name of Your Son, the Living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.�
>>>
>>> � � � � � � � � � � � ****************
>>>
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>>is it mostly pixchurs?
>
>Mostly cut and paste.

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