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Holly wrote:
> On Apr 11, 3:15 pm, "Pete       ‹(•¿•)›" <farmingfa...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:30:17 +0100, Malcolm
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>> <Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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>> >In article <YIydnRpto5INhYDbRVny...@bt.com>, Pat Gardiner
>> ><patgardi...@btinternet.com> writes
>> >>Some of you will realise that I had a big problem a few days ago when,
>> >>unexpectedly to me, the world famous British Library, of Karl Marx fame,
>> >>shut down as an ISP.
>>
>> >>They were the only government ISP - and very good they were too, as you
>> >>would expect. They hosted Self-Sufficiency in Style
>>
>> >>To be prefectly frank there was total panic in my heart. Readers who have
>> >>known me for years were out of touch. Not least, those official bodies that
>> >>use me as a source of reliable information.
>>
>> >Yes, Pat, of course, Pat. You're absolutely right, Pat. Everyone knows
>> >that you are a source of reliable information.
>>
>> Of course you're right, but do I detect some jealousy?
>>
>> >>but you will all
>> >>recall I have long told you, you were all being very closely watched by a
>> >>huge range of regulatory bodies, here and abroad.
>>
>> >Oh yes, we remember all right. Indeed, you keep repeating it, mentioning
>> >"watchers" and "monitors" and other mysterious beings. I don't recall
>> >you mentioning the "huge range" before, but doubtless you can
>> >substantiate this escalation in your claim.
>>
>> Speaking of claims. Do you remember when you copied Konters book on
>> grebes and got caught out, after making all sorts of false claims/
>> Just before you were booted out of the RSPB for being a liar and
>> fraud, and demon.local as it happens.
>>
>> Here it is in case you forgot....
>>
>> Message from discussion Malcolm gets a kicking
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>>   More options 29 Nov 2002, 23:46  
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>> Newsgroups: demon.local, uk.environment.conservation,
>> talk.politics.animals, uk.rec.birdwatching, uk.rec.natural-history
>> From: Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 22:47:55 +0000
>> Local: Fri 29 Nov 2002 23:47
>> Subject: Malcolm gets a kicking
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>> In article <qqn9uusrsb9ink562o7197q9ka4fbdj...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>> <paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>
>> >This one would make a nice present - well illustrated by an author
>> >with first hand knowledge.
>> >http://www.hbw.com/phtml/llibreLynx.phtml?codi=MON0001
>> >'Twould look nice on my shelves!
>>
>> Thank you, Paul.
>>
>> I shall refrain from wondering too much about your motives in suddenly
>> publicising the above - I don't remember you ever recommending a book
>> before - just a couple of days after you learnt that my own book
>> entitled 'Grebes of the World' has just been published. However, I'm
>> grateful for the opportunity to say that my book is available fromwww.nhbs.comand other suppliers.
>>
>> It is a very different book from the above, being a large-format
>> volume
>> of 24 stunning plates by Chris Rose, one of our leading wildlife
>> artists, who has observed grebes across the world and who suggested
>> the
>> project to a publisher. While I haven't seen quite all the species
>> Chris
>> has, the publisher was kind enough to ask me to write an accompanying
>> text in the form of a series of essays, rather than follow a strict
>> 'handbook' format, together with a longish introduction covering all
>> the
>> main aspects of grebes' lives. Appendices contain the basic biological
>> information about each species, together with explanations of the
>> derivations of the English and scientific names, something of a hobby
>> of
>> mine.
>>
>> It will indeed look very nice indeed on anyone's shelves - if you can
>> afford it :-))
>>
>> --
>> Malcolm
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Thank you, Paul.
>>
>> Don't mention it. I was a little surprised that you didn't come across
>> it in your extensive research though  (-:
>>
>> --
>> Paul Rooney
>>
>> Quotes of the year from demon.local:
>> "You *will* either disappear or post with a sig of
>> 4 lines or less. There is no third possibility."
>> "Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert!"
>>
>> In article <ef0auuc8mn9pe9lkcnhiqol8omlrb4n...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>> <paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>
>> >On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:44:23 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> >wrote:
>> >>Thank you, Paul.
>> >Don't mention it. I was a little surprised that you didn't come across
>> >it in your extensive research though  (-:
>>
>> You shouldn't jump to conclusions. And you shouldn't try and score
>> points when you don't have all the facts. Do you know anything about
>> it
>> at all except what you read in the advert?
>>
>> I have a copy. Have you?
>>
>> --
>> Malcolm
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 17:56:58 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <ef0auuc8mn9pe9lkcnhiqol8omlrb4n...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>> ><paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>> >>On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:44:23 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>>Thank you, Paul.
>> >>Don't mention it. I was a little surprised that you didn't come across
>> >>it in your extensive research though  (-:
>> >You shouldn't jump to conclusions.
>>
>> Did I jump to the wrong conclusion? It's just that you did say yours
>> was the first ever book on the subject, so I not unreasonably
>> concluded that you were unaware of the earlier work.
>> Humble apologies if I have got the wrong end of the stick.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Rooney
>>
>> Quotes of the year from demon.local:
>> "You *will* either disappear or post with a sig of
>> 4 lines or less. There is no third possibility."
>> "Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert!"
>>
>> In article <5l3auucau0o6j9n6dv0cnl0oiacm2om...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>> <paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>
>> >On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 17:56:58 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> >wrote:
>> >>In article <ef0auuc8mn9pe9lkcnhiqol8omlrb4n...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>> >><paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>> >>>On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:44:23 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>>>Thank you, Paul.
>> >>>Don't mention it. I was a little surprised that you didn't come across
>> >>>it in your extensive research though  (-:
>> >>You shouldn't jump to conclusions.
>> >Did I jump to the wrong conclusion? It's just that you did say yours
>> >was the first ever book on the subject, so I not unreasonably
>> >concluded that you were unaware of the earlier work.
>> >Humble apologies if I have got the wrong end of the stick.
>>
>> You did. Apology accepted.
>>
>> --
>> Malcolm
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:49:43 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >In article <5l3auucau0o6j9n6dv0cnl0oiacm2om...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>> ><paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>> >>On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 17:56:58 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>>In article <ef0auuc8mn9pe9lkcnhiqol8omlrb4n...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>> >>><paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>> >>>>On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 16:44:23 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> >>>>wrote:
>> >>>>>Thank you, Paul.
>> >>>>Don't mention it. I was a little surprised that you didn't come across
>> >>>>it in your extensive research though  (-:
>> >>>You shouldn't jump to conclusions.
>> >>Did I jump to the wrong conclusion? It's just that you did say yours
>> >>was the first ever book on the subject, so I not unreasonably
>> >>concluded that you were unaware of the earlier work.
>> >>Humble apologies if I have got the wrong end of the stick.
>> >You did. Apology accepted.
>>
>> Good-oh!
>> So just to be clear - what did you mean when you said yours was the
>> first book ever devoted to this particular group of birds?
>>
>> --
>> Paul Rooney
>>
>> Quotes of the year from demon.local:
>> "You *will* either disappear or post with a sig of
>> 4 lines or less. There is no third possibility."
>> "Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert!"
>>
>> "Paul Rooney" <paulroo...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> > >>Did I jump to the wrong conclusion? It's just that you did say yours
>> > >>was the first ever book on the subject, so I not unreasonably
>> > >>concluded that you were unaware of the earlier work.
>> > >>Humble apologies if I have got the wrong end of the stick.
>> > >You did. Apology accepted.
>> > Good-oh!
>> > So just to be clear - what did you mean when you said yours was the
>> > first book ever devoted to this particular group of birds?
>> > Paul Rooney
>>
>> ROFL :-)
>>
>> <msdl20...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >ROFL :-)
>>
>> You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
>> Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
>> My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
>> and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
>> is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.
>>
>> Malcolm
>>
>> In article <vphauuo4g5p251r6l9l1hf7re8kblda...@4ax.com>,
>> M...@indaal.demon.co.uk says...
>>
>> > On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 22:13:50 -0000, "peter kook"
>> > <msdl20...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> > >ROFL :-)
>> > You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
>> > Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
>> > My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
>> > and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
>> > is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.
>> > Malcolm
>>
>> KONTER (Andre) - Grebes of our World. Visiting all Species on Five
>> Continents - 2001, 8vo. 187pp. Colour photographs, line drawings.  A
>> description of the 22 species of grebes, their natural history,
>> ecology
>> and behaviour.
>>
>> Grebes of the World
>> Malcolm Ogilvie
>> The book starts with an authoritative introduction on the origin,
>> evolution, distribution, physiology and behaviour of grebes, followed
>> by
>> accounts of each of the 22 species
>>
>> Malcolm it looks as though Konter might dispute that statement!
>> --
>> Rob
>>
>> In article <MPG.184f5eb42c4e3237989...@news.freeserve.net>, Rob Jack
>> <kcajbornos...@lineone.net> writes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >In article <vphauuo4g5p251r6l9l1hf7re8kblda...@4ax.com>,
>> >M...@indaal.demon.co.uk says...
>> >> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 22:13:50 -0000, "peter kook"
>> >> <msdl20...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >ROFL :-)
>> >> You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
>> >> Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
>> >> My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
>> >> and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
>> >> is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.
>> >> Malcolm
>> >KONTER (Andre) - Grebes of our World. Visiting all Species on Five
>> >Continents - 2001, 8vo. 187pp. Colour photographs, line drawings.  A
>> >description of the 22 species of grebes, their natural history, ecology
>> >and behaviour.
>> >Grebes of the World
>> >Malcolm Ogilvie
>> >The book starts with an authoritative introduction on the origin,
>> >evolution, distribution, physiology and behaviour of grebes, followed by
>> >accounts of each of the 22 species
>> >Malcolm it looks as though Konter might dispute that statement!
>>
>> Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter,
>> but
>> please note that you are replying to a forged message.
>>
>> Can I advise that people look at the headers of any messages
>> purporting
>> to come from me, now that Pete has started forging people's names and
>> e-mail addresses again. The above message ID ends in @4ax. I post
>> through Demon so mine end in @indaal.demon.co.uk, the same as my
>> e-mail
>> address. You'll also note that the forged message didn't have a
>> Reply-to
>> header line. Mine do.
>>
>> --
>> Malcolm Ogilvie
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter, but
>> >please note that you are replying to a forged message.
>>
>> You're not the first academic to propagate an untruth in order to look
>> good, and I doubt you'll be the last. A bit shabby though,
>> particularly as it took you so long to own up.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Rooney
>>
>> Quotes of the year from demon.local:
>> "You *will* either disappear or post with a sig of
>> 4 lines or less. There is no third possibility."
>> "Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert!"
>>
>> In article <6bsbuusm6dbrucb08dsh9purbq2l7ca...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>> <paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>>
>> >On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:01:13 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> >wrote:
>> >>Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter, but
>> >>please note that you are replying to a forged message.
>> >You're not the first academic to propagate an untruth in order to look
>> >good, and I doubt you'll be the last. A bit shabby though,
>> >particularly as it took you so long to own up.
>>
>> Hmm, I think you should look to your own behaviour before rushing to
>> criticise others.
>>
>> The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the
>> book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup where I wasn't
>> advertising the book and didn't even give the title of the book or the
>> name of the publisher. You then chose to introduce the subject of
>> books
>> on grebes to this newsgroup by suggesting the other book as a good
>> Christmas present without mentioning mine. This deliberate, even
>> shabby,
>> action of yours was perhaps not unconnected with the fact that, having
>> a
>> little while ago accidentally discovered, via a crosspost, the
>> newsgroup
>> in which I had posted my piece, you set about being deliberately
>> disruptive, flooding it with nearly 700 messages in just four weeks,
>> for
>> which behaviour you have been rightly criticised by myself and many
>> other regulars of that newsgroup.
>>
>> BTW, that's twice you've called me an academic. Why? It is my
>> understanding that academics work in universities. I don't and never
>> have.
>>
>> --
>> Malcolm
>>
>> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:22:13 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <6bsbuusm6dbrucb08dsh9purbq2l7ca...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney
>> ><paulroo...@aol.com> writes
>> >>On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:01:13 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>>Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter, but
>> >>>please note that you are replying to a forged message.
>> >>You're not the first academic to propagate an untruth in order to look
>> >>good, and I doubt you'll be the last. A bit shabby though,
>> >>particularly as it took you so long to own up.
>> >Hmm, I think you should look to your own behaviour before rushing to
>> >criticise others.
>> >The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the
>> >book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup where I wasn't
>> >advertising the book and didn't even give the title of the book or the
>> >name of the publisher.
>>
>> You clearly and explicitly stated that yours was the first book on the
>> subject, in the full knowledge that the topic had recently been
>> covered very thoroughly in Konter's book.
>> The facts speak for themselves. You are a liar who only had the grace
>> to own up when you had been found out - you even persisted in giving
>> the impression that you were the first to write it *after* I had drawn
>> attention to your untruth. Your apology comes a little late.
>> You do yourself no credit in introducing other, wholly irrelevant
>> matters in order to deflect criticism from your behaviour. Shame on
>> you.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Rooney
>>
>> Quotes of the year from demon.local:
>> "You *will* either disappear or post with a sig of
>> 4 lines or less. There is no third possibility."
>> "Apostrophe alert! Apostrophe alert!"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Malcolm" <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > Hmm, I think you should look to your own behaviour before rushing to
>> > criticise others.
>> > The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the
>> > book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup where I wasn't
>> > advertising the book and didn't even give the title of the book or the
>> > name of the publisher. You then chose to introduce the subject of books
>> > on grebes to this newsgroup by suggesting the other book as a good
>> > Christmas present without mentioning mine. This deliberate, even shabby,
>> > action of yours was perhaps not unconnected with the fact that, having a
>> > little while ago accidentally discovered, via a crosspost, the newsgroup
>> > in which I had posted my piece, you set about being deliberately
>> > disruptive, flooding it with nearly 700 messages in just four weeks, for
>> > which behaviour you have been rightly criticised by myself and many
>> > other regulars of that newsgroup.
>> > BTW, that's twice you've called me an academic. Why? It is my
>> > understanding that academics work in universities. I don't and never
>> > have.
>> > --
>> > Malcolm
>>
>> --
>>
>> Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!
>>
>> PRAYER FOR A NATION
>>
>> When Pastor Joe Wright, of Central Christian Church, was asked
>> to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting
>>  the usual politically correct generalities.
>> But what they heard instead was this:
>>
>> Heavenly Father, we come before You today to ask Your forgiveness
>> and seek your direction and guidance.
>> We know Your Word says,
>> ‘Woe on those who call evil good,’ but that’s exactly what we have done.
>> We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values.
>>
>> We confess that:
>>
>> We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism;
>>
>> We have, worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism;
>>
>> We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle;
>>
>> We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery;
>>
>> We have neglected the needy and called it self-preservation;
>>
>> We have killed our unborn and called it choice;
>>
>> We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem;
>>
>> We have abused power and called it political savvy;
>>
>> We have coveted our neighbour’s possessions and called it ambition;
>>
>> We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression;
>>
>> We have ridiculed the time-honoured values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.
>>
>> Search us, 0 God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us;
>> cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have
>> been sent here by the people of Kansas, and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state.
>>
>> Grant them Your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the centre of Your will. I ask it in the name of Your Son, the Living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.”
>>
>>                       ****************
>>
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