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Hackman <"hacker(nospam)"@jump.nospam.net> wrote after:

> Matt Walcoff wrote:
> > 
> > But you see we're not debating whether or not people should drink. In
> > a perfect world, there might not be alcohol. But the fact is people,
> > including people under 21, do drink. The question is how to reduce the
> > harm of people drinking.
 
> why do yuo feel that in a perfect world, there wouldn't be alcohol ?
> The need of man to alter his conscience is universal...heck, I should
> have said animal and not man, for this is something that isn't limitted
> to just man...watch a cat sometimes with catnip.....

I'm not aware of any such universal need... perhaps I missed something.

"I fear animals regard man as a creature of their own kind which has in a
highly dangerous fashion lost its healthy animal reason...." Friedrich
Nietzsche (1887).

I don't know about your universal cat, but my cat "needed" water, 
and liked catnip; and I will admit to liking (a cultivated attraction, 
I might add) chocolate, but not "needing" it...

So maybe the cat perspective is going to lead to thinking that 
"Bats have no bankers and they do not drink
and cannot be arrested and pay no tax
and, in general, bats have it made."
John Berryman, "The Dream Songs" (1969).

and what do rocks need ... might there then be a suggestion that they have
it made best of all and yet somehow we are one with them 
in the alcohol and law debate?