🚀 go-pugleaf

mowen wrote:
> 
> Hackman <"hacker(nospam)"@jump.nospam.net> wrote after:
> 
> > Matt Walcoff wrote:
> > >
> > > But you see we're not debating whether or not people should drink. In
> > > a perfect world, there might not be alcohol. But the fact is people,
> > > including people under 21, do drink. The question is how to reduce the
> > > harm of people drinking.
> 
> > why do yuo feel that in a perfect world, there wouldn't be alcohol ?
> > The need of man to alter his conscience is universal...heck, I should
> > have said animal and not man, for this is something that isn't limitted
> > to just man...watch a cat sometimes with catnip.....
> 
> I'm not aware of any such universal need... perhaps I missed something.
> 

perhaps you have...or maybe you should do a bit of animal research...me,
I see it all the time....

> "I fear animals regard man as a creature of their own kind which has in a
> highly dangerous fashion lost its healthy animal reason...." Friedrich
> Nietzsche (1887).
> 
> I don't know about your universal cat, but my cat "needed" water,
> and liked catnip; and I will admit to liking (a cultivated attraction,
> I might add) chocolate, but not "needing" it...
>

by-the-way, chocolate is BAD for cats....
 
> So maybe the cat perspective is going to lead to thinking that
> "Bats have no bankers and they do not drink
> and cannot be arrested and pay no tax
> and, in general, bats have it made."
> John Berryman, "The Dream Songs" (1969).
> 
> and what do rocks need ... might there then be a suggestion that they have
> it made best of all and yet somehow we are one with them
> in the alcohol and law debate?

????  You've lost me here.....