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Article #265Re: All men are bastards
From: Jim Robinson
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 21:01
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1993 21:01
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Pierre Breton (breton@McRCIM.McGill.EDU) wrote:
>In article <1993Sep1.155644.10363@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>, bross@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca (Brian Ross) writes:
>When I read Jim Robinson's sentence that you unintentionnally erased:
>"In other words, some groups are now more equal than others. ", the
>thought that crossed my mind was: "As if it wasn't the case anyway. "
But now we are talking about *state sponsored* inequality. There is a heck
of a difference between this and non-state sponsored inequality. I don't
care whether you have a nicer <insert favourite toy here> than me; I do
very much care if the government via legislation tells me that I cannot
ever hope to have as nice as one as you.
>|> The issue here is fairly cut and dry: some people (including our
>|> courts) believe that civil rights should not be interpreted
>|> equally for all people, but instead must be interpreted based on power
>|> dynamics. Therefore, hate literature against men is acceptable, whereas
>|> a Playboy magazine at Mac's may soon be illegal (a Playgirl would likely
>|> be seen as being quite fine however). A great many Canadians, including
>|> myself, believe this is wrong and ignorant.
>|>
>So what do you propose?
>Men prison guards could frisk female prisoners and vice-versa?
>Playboy, Playgirl and "All men are bastard" calendar be censored as hate
>literature?
>I (and many great Canadians %^) think this would be wrong and ignorant.
What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Female guards should
indeed not be able to frisk male prisoners. As for the calendar, as a firm
believer in freedom of speech I think that neither it nor Playboy,
Playgirl, Hustler, etc should be censored. However, it is telling that the
the "All men are bastards" calendar is not considered politically
incorrect, whereas a hypothetical "All women are slime" calendar would be
roundly denounced as another demonstration of the hatred towards women that
is fostered by the patriarchal, capitalist society in which we live.
In case it is not obvious, I despise double standards.
--
Jim Robinson
robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com
{ubc-cs!van-bc,uunet}!mdivax1!robinson
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10f6dc,768cb07837f8a41d X-Google-Attributes: gid10f6dc,public X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,768cb07837f8a41d X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public X-Google-Thread: 1046d3,768cb07837f8a41d X-Google-Attributes: gid1046d3,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-09-01 14:10:23 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!utcsri!robinson Newsgroups: uw.general,soc.culture.canada,can.legal From: mdivax1!robinson@pobox.mot.com (Jim Robinson) Subject: Re: All men are bastards Message-ID: <1993Sep1.210010.1613@mdivax1.uucp> Followup-To: can.legal,uw.general,soc.culture.canada Reply-To: robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Robinson) Organization: Motorola, Wireless Data Group - Richmond, BC X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] References: <262d8l$42n@Olympus.McRCIM.McGill.EDU> <1993Sep1.155644.10363@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> <262o4r$43k@Olympus.McRCIM.McGill.EDU> Date: 1 Sep 93 21:01:04 GMT Lines: 44