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Re: Keep Elian from the brainwashing in Havana Re: Elian: Send The Boy Home!

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From: James Doemer
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 00:00
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"Ivan Gowch" <gowch@SPAMMENOThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3920246c.10702966@news.ican.net...
> On Mon, 15 May 2000 06:04:46 -0400, "James Doemer"
> <bigtoe@provide.net> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> ==>There is no conspiracy theory, except in the subsequent cover-up.
> ==>They bungled an arrest.   Then continued to bungle the siege.   I
> ==>don't think that the government went in their with the intention
> ==>to kill everyone.   However, there is ample evidence that points
> ==>out quite clearly over the last year or so that there was a concerted
> ==>effort at cover-up, and evidence suppression/fabrication.    And,
> ==>as far as I know, even twisted mother-fuckers have the right
> ==>to due process of law in the USA.
>
> You're right.  But Koresh and his fellow nutcases denied themselves
> "due process" the moment they opened fire on duly authorized
> law-enforcement officers.
>
>

Just as a scenario, consider the possibility that someone on the BATF/FBI,
say an inexperienced new agent, a bit trigger happy, and a bit scared, fired
the first shot.    Would a person, not even considering the Branch Davidians
for a second, but just any person, be availed of the right of self defense
in that case?
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From: "James Doemer" <bigtoe@provide.net>
Subject: Re: Keep Elian from the brainwashing in Havana Re: Elian: Send The Boy Home!
Date: 2000/05/15
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