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Re: Keep Elian from the brainwashing in Havana Re: Elian: Send The Boy Home!

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From: James Doemer
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 00:00
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"Matthew T. Russotto" <russotto@wanda.vf.pond.com> wrote in message
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> In article <39208353_1@news.provide.net>,
> James Doemer <bigtoe@provide.net> wrote:
> }
> }
> }Just as a scenario, consider the possibility that someone on the
BATF/FBI,
> }say an inexperienced new agent, a bit trigger happy, and a bit scared,
fired
> }the first shot.    Would a person, not even considering the Branch
Davidians
> }for a second, but just any person, be availed of the right of self
defense
> }in that case?
>
> What difference would it make?  Some people in uniforms are shooting at
> someone else.  How can this second person make things any worse by
> firing back?  At best, he kills them and is killed by the state later.  At
> worst, they kill him right there, which is what they're up to anyway.
>

I have trouble getting anyone in this forum to answer a direct question with
a direct answer.    The question is: Do you believe that they have a right
to self defense in that circumstance?

And, as an added question:  From your response, it appears that you support
a police state, is that true?
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From: "James Doemer" <bigtoe@provide.net>
Subject: Re: Keep Elian from the brainwashing in Havana Re: Elian: Send The Boy Home!
Date: 2000/05/15
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