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Re: FBI Agents 'Miffed' that Gun Owner Contacted Media

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From: Nap
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:03
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"John Gilmer" <gilmer@crosslink.net> wrote in message
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>
> >
> > Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Prior to the capture of "Beltway
> > Sniper" suspects John Allen Muhammad and John Lee Malvo, an
> > unconfirmed number of Maryland gun owners received surprise visits
> > from the FBI as part of the investigation. One such gun owner had a
> > surprise of his own for the agents when they arrived at his home.
>
> Tee Hee!
>
> Well, you know that an employee of the FBI was one of the victims.
>
> The situation is that when someone in "law enforcement" or associated with
> them is killed, the "law enforcement" types want to see someone punished.
>
> As a case a few years ago (where the cops shot a "suspect" who had NOTHING
> to do with the crime) demonstrates, the cops are more interested in
SOMEONE
> getting "punished" NOW rather than the actual guilty party being punished
at
> some future time.
>
> Slightly OT:
>
> My "take" on why the cops went to town looking for the "white vans" and
> ignored the equally valid "clue" about the blue Caprice was that there are
> like still a few "undercover" caprices with "real" cops running about.
>
> You combine trigger happy cops (with their SWAT weapons and attitudes)
with
> plain clothes, armed cops and it would be only a matter of time before you
> have a dead cop at the hands of another cop.

IF the cops can shoot straight. There was an incident in Seattle where
a marked police car was reported stolen, and two real Seattle police
ended up in a shoot out, each "thinking" that the other was the one who
stole the police car. Some 20+ rounds were fired, and neither one was
able to hit the other.

That's pretty bad marksmanship!

What I don't understand is how both could follow procedure and end up
shooting at each other. :-) If both followed procedure, then the procedure
sucks! If this procedure can lead to two cops shooting at each other and
is considered justified to do so, then what about interactions between cops
and non-cops?
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