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Re: Callable Notes question.

#164
From: Dick Munroe
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:08
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In article <13OCT199203395199@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
> 
> Computer software doesn't do "likely" things.  It does what it's coded to.

What a remarkable insight that is.

> 
> Paul was right, it is gotten from SYS$NODE.  Dick is wrong, it is NOT gotten
> from the SCS (not SCCS) node name via GETSYI.  It is easy to verify this:
> 
> #If you change SYS$NODE and attempt a post to a topic, you STILL get the right
> #node name.
> 
> Oh no, it works for me.  You should try getting CMEXEC privs, and
> changing the logical name in the correct access mode.  You'd be
> amazed how that works much more likely than not.

What in the world makes you think I DIDN'T try this?  Your attitude is a best
condescending and at worst deliberately insulting.  Hope you don't treat your
clients this way, because you'll poison the well for a lot of other good
consultants.

To produce a counter example for your statement:

HULK::USER1:[..CODE1]$ sho log/full sys$node
   "SYS$NODE" [exec,crelog] = "HULK::" [terminal] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)

HULK::USER1:[..CODE1]$ define/system/exec/trans=terminal sys$node foo::
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of SYS$NODE has been superseded
HULK::USER1:[..CODE1]$ sho log/full sys$node
   "SYS$NODE" [exec] = "FOO::" [terminal] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)

after creating a new note in a local notes file:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note 3.0                              test                           No replies
HULK::MUNROE                                          2 lines  13-OCT-1992
23:54

    this is a test
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Note that HULK is STILL present in the topic header, clearly indicating that
the translation does NOT come from SYS$NODE.

So, as usual, Ehud shoots his mouth off and gets it wrong.  Clearly something
is going on that neither one of us understands completely.

Now I haven't tried actually creating the logical using the SYS$CRELOG system
service, but that's because I haven't got any documentation old enough to
refresh my memory of the interface.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!thehulk!munroe
From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
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Subject: Re: Callable Notes question.
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Date: 14 Oct 92 00:08:35 EDT
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