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Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
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Author: John Lander
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:41
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John Kerry's wild accusations about the "missing" explosives is based
on the assumption that you, the voters, are completely stupid. He
thinks that you have absolutely no ability to think.

Think about it. How is it possible for insurgent Iraqis to just carry
off nearly 400 tons of explosives without being seen?

Does it make sense that they just stuffed 400 tons of explosives down
their pants and walked off in the night?

How do you remove 400 tons of explosives without being noticed?

How many insurgents does it take to steal 400 tons of explosives?
That's almost a million pounds of explosives. Think about it. Does it
make sense that this much activity would go unnoticed?

The movement of 400 tons of explosives would have required dozens of
heavy trucks and equipment moving along the same roadways that U.S.
combat divisions occupied continually for weeks prior to and
subsequent to the US Army's arrival at the facility.

Kerry suggests that the US Army is so incompetent and stupid that they
wouldn't notice 400 tons of explosives being moved by the enemy behind
their own lines! And then he blames George Bush for the whole problem.
This makes no sense at all!!

Kerry has lost it! He makes wild accusations that make no sense at all
and he thinks that you are too stupid to see through it all.

This man has no business being in the White House. He is totally
irresponsible and totally unsuited to protect America in such
uncertain times.
Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
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Author: Matt Telles
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:46
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chemprofessor2001@yahoo.com (John Lander) wrote in message news:<87910a54.0410280141.453048c1@posting.google.com>...
> John Kerry's wild accusations about the "missing" explosives is based
> on the assumption that you, the voters, are completely stupid. He
> thinks that you have absolutely no ability to think.
> 
> Think about it. How is it possible for insurgent Iraqis to just carry
> off nearly 400 tons of explosives without being seen?
> 
> Does it make sense that they just stuffed 400 tons of explosives down
> their pants and walked off in the night?
> 
> How do you remove 400 tons of explosives without being noticed?
> 
> How many insurgents does it take to steal 400 tons of explosives?
> That's almost a million pounds of explosives. Think about it. Does it
> make sense that this much activity would go unnoticed?
> 
> The movement of 400 tons of explosives would have required dozens of
> heavy trucks and equipment moving along the same roadways that U.S.
> combat divisions occupied continually for weeks prior to and
> subsequent to the US Army's arrival at the facility.
> 
> Kerry suggests that the US Army is so incompetent and stupid that they
> wouldn't notice 400 tons of explosives being moved by the enemy behind
> their own lines! And then he blames George Bush for the whole problem.
> This makes no sense at all!!
> 
> Kerry has lost it! He makes wild accusations that make no sense at all
> and he thinks that you are too stupid to see through it all.
> 
> This man has no business being in the White House. He is totally
> irresponsible and totally unsuited to protect America in such
> uncertain times.

First of all, when did Kerry call the Army "stupid" as you say in the
title of the post?

Secondly, let's look at what Mr Rudy Giuliani, darling of the
Republican party said, while travelling with Bush:

Campaign surrogate Giuliani said Thursday on the "Today Show," "No
matter how you try to blame it on the president the actual
responsibility for it really would be for the troops that were there.
Did they search carefully enough? Didn't they search carefully
enough?"

Hm. Which one is calling the Army stupid?

Matt
Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
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Author: Uncle Samuel
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:49
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Matt Telles wrote:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm

Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms

By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and 
related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 
2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.
     John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for 
international technology security, said in an interview that he believes 
the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, "almost certainly" 
removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa 
facility, south of Baghdad.

     "The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole 
series of military units," Mr. Shaw said. "Their main job was to shred 
all evidence of any of the contractual arrangements they had with the 
Iraqis. The others were transportation units."
     Mr. Shaw, who was in charge of cataloging the tons of conventional 
arms provided to Iraq by foreign suppliers, said he recently obtained 
reliable information on the arms-dispersal program from two European 
intelligence services that have detailed knowledge of the Russian-Iraqi 
weapons collaboration.
     Most of Saddam's most powerful arms were systematically separated 
from other arms like mortars, bombs and rockets, and sent to Syria and 
Lebanon, and possibly to Iran, he said.


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Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
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Author: Copelandia Cyanescens
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:34
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Matt Telles wrote...

> First of all, when did Kerry call the Army "stupid" as you say in the
> title of the post?

To put it in more simplistic terms you *may* be able to grasp...

"Matt Telles had 400 tons of apples in his living room. Someone took
away 400 tons of apples while Matt Telles was sitting right there
watching cartoons. Matt Telles didn't even know it happened."

Q: How many apples does Matt Telles have left?

Q: How stupid does Matt Telles look?

Concentrate real hard, there's no time limit.

> Secondly, let's look at what Mr Rudy Giuliani, darling of the
> Republican party said, while travelling with Bush:
> 
> Campaign surrogate Giuliani said Thursday on the "Today Show," "No
> matter how you try to blame it on the president the actual
> responsibility for it really would be for the troops that were there.
> Did they search carefully enough? Didn't they search carefully
> enough?"
> 
> Hm. Which one is calling the Army stupid?

Both of them. Anything else you need cleared up?

-- 
"In an age where five million people are newly infected each year 
and women and girls too often do not have the choice to abstain, 
an abstinence until marriage program is not only irresponsible, 
it's really inhumane."

                             -- Congresswoman Barbara Lee on AIDS
Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
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Author: Matt Telles
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:19
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Uncle Samuel <Stars@Stripes.USA> wrote in message news:<Biagd.3503385$ic1.358299@news.easynews.com>...
> Matt Telles wrote:
> 
> http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm
> 
> Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms

Another lie rebutted. Did you happen to catch the news report with the
VIDEO of the explosives shown, Unkie? How did they manage to fake that
particular one, that David Kay indicates ARE the missing explosives?

Matt
Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
#330
Author: Lou P. Garrew
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:59
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Gullible as ever, 
Uncle Schlemiel trolled:
> 
> Matt Telles wrote:

He wrote a question: When did Kerry call the Army "stupid"?
Instead of answering the question, you tried to attribute a
bit of right wing-nut propaganda to him.
> 
> http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm
> 
> Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms
> 
> By Bill Gertz
> THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Known as a neo-con source of disinformation.
> 
> Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and
> related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March
> 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.
>      John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for
> international technology security, said in an interview that he believes
> the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, "almost certainly"
> removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa
> facility, south of Baghdad.

"He believes" and "almost certainly" -- in other words he has
no convincing evidence, but he'll lie anyway.

> 
>      "The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole
> series of military units," Mr. Shaw said. 

Which our intelligence services didn't notice until just now? What
a crock.

> "Their main job was to shred
> all evidence of any of the contractual arrangements they had with the
> Iraqis. The others were transportation units."

Ever try to shred a factory, a lab, ammo bunkers and the contaminated
soils they stood on? And ain't it convenient that they happened to
bring along enough trucks, workers and fuel to move about three-quarter
million pounds of high explosives, of uncertain sensitivity? And move 
it all, unnoticed until now, without one accident, while our recce
planes and spysats were all over them? Holy maskirovka, Battyman!
How did they ever lose the Cold War?

>      Mr. Shaw, who was in charge of cataloging the tons of conventional
> arms provided to Iraq by foreign suppliers, said he recently obtained
> reliable information on the arms-dispersal program from two European
> intelligence services that have detailed knowledge of the Russian-Iraqi
> weapons collaboration.

Oh, gawd, Schlemiel, even YOU should know better than to trust
Inspector Clousseau and THRUSH!

>      Most of Saddam's most powerful arms were systematically separated
> from other arms like mortars, bombs and rockets, and sent to Syria and
> Lebanon, and possibly to Iran, he said.

Get real. Saddam gave his WMDs to any of his mortal enemies? "Hi,
nasty person I have always opposed, hold onto my gas and germs, but
promise pretty-please not to use them against me when I return to
power, as my towering ego says I shall do!"

Lou P. Garrew, at your service--and glad to tread on a snake like
YOU, Schlemiel!
Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
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Author: Uncle Samuel
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:26
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Matt Telles wrote:

> Uncle Samuel <Stars@Stripes.USA> wrote in message news:<Biagd.3503385$ic1.358299@news.easynews.com>...
> 
>>Matt Telles wrote:
>>
>>http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm
>>
>>Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms
> 
> 
> Another lie rebutted. 

Not by you.


http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/970152/posts

U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq's weapons of mass destruction have 
finally been located.

Unfortunately, getting to them will be nearly impossible for the United 
States and its allies, because the containers with the strategic 
materials are not in Iraq.

Instead they are located in Lebanon's heavily-fortified Bekaa Valley, 
swarming with Iranian and Syrian forces, and Hizbullah and ex-Iraqi 
agents, Geostrategy-Direct.com will report in tomorrow's new weekly 
edition.

U.S. intelligence first identified a stream of tractor-trailer trucks 
moving from Iraq to Syria to Lebaon in January 2003. The significance of 
this sighting did not register on the CIA at the time.

U.S. intelligence sources believe the area contains extended-range 
Scud-based missiles and parts for chemical and biological warheads.


Mutually-lucrative Iraqi-Syrian arms transactions are nothing new. Firas 
Tlas, son of Syrian Defense Minister Mustafa Tlas, has been the key to 
Syria's rogue alliance with Iraq. He and Assad made hundreds of millions 
of dollars selling weapons, oil and drugs to and from Iraq, according to 
the May 13, 2003 edition of Geostrategy-Direct.com.

The CIA now believes a multi-million dollar deal between Iraq and Syria 
provided for the hiding and safekeeping of Saddam's strategic weapons.


-- 
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Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
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Author: Uncle Samuel
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:26
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Lou P. Garrew wrote:

> Gullible as ever, 
> Uncle Schlemiel trolled:
> 
>>Matt Telles wrote:
> 
> 
> He wrote a question

He's a fucking lying partisan birdbrain Lou, just like YOU.

>>http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm
>>
>>Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms
>>
>>By Bill Gertz
>>THE WASHINGTON TIMES
> 
> 
> Known as a neo-con source of disinformation.

Not a factual rebuttal.

>>Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and
>>related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March
>>2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.
>>     John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for
>>international technology security, said in an interview that he believes
>>the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, "almost certainly"
>>removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa
>>facility, south of Baghdad.
> 
> 
> "He believes" and "almost certainly" -- in other words he has
> no convincing evidence, but he'll lie anyway.

We already know what Russia had at stake there:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/MiddleEast/wm217.cfm

Russia
Russia controls roughly 5.8 percent of Iraq�s annual imports.[16] Under 
the U.N. oil-for-food program, Russia�s total trade with Iraq was 
somewhere between $530 million and $1 billion for the six months ending 
in December of 2001.[17]
According to the Russian Ambassador to Iraq, Vladimir Titorenko, new 
contracts worth another $200 million under the U.N. oil-for-food program 
are to be signed over the next three months.[18]
Russia�s LUKoil negotiated a $4 billion, 23-year contract in 1997 to 
rehabilitate the 15 billion-barrel West Qurna field in southern Iraq. 
Work on the oil field was expected to commence upon cancellation of U.N. 
sanctions on Iraq. The deal is currently on hold.[19]
In October 2001, Salvneft, a Russian�Belarus company, negotiated a $52 
million service contract to drill at the Tuba field in Southern Iraq.[20]
In April 2001, Russia�s Zaruezhneft and Tatneft companies received a 
service contract to drill in the Saddam, Kirkuk, and Bai Hassan fields 
to rehabilitate the fields and reduce water incursion. Together the 
deals were valued at $13.2 million.[21]
A future $40 billion Iraqi�Russian economic agreement, reportedly signed 
in 2002, would allow for extensive oil exploration opportunities 
throughout western Iraq.[22] The proposal calls for 67 new projects, 
over a 10-year time frame, to explore and further develop fields in 
southern Iraq and the Western Desert, including the Suba, Luhais, West 
Qurna, and Rumaila projects. Additional projects added to the deal 
include second-phase construction of a pipeline running from southern to 
northern Iraq, and extensive drilling and gas projects. Work on these 
projects would commence upon cancellation of sanctions.[23]
Russia�s Gazprom Company over the past few years has signed contracts 
worth $18 million to repair gas stations in Iraq.[24]
The former Soviet Union was the premier supplier of Iraqi arms. From 
1981 to 2001, Russia supplied Iraq with 50 percent of its arms.[25]
Soviet-era debt of $7 billion through $8 billion was generated by arms 
sales to Iraq during the 1980�1988 Iran�Iraq war.
Three Russian firms are suspected of selling electronic jamming 
equipment, antitank missiles and thousands of night-vision goggles to 
Iraq in violation of U.N. sanctions.[26]  Two of the companies 
identified are Aviaconversiya and KBP Tula.

>>     "The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole
>>series of military units," Mr. Shaw said. 
> 
> 
> Which our intelligence services didn't notice until just now? What
> a crock.

But a "crock" you're uanble to prove.

They may have noticed some time prior to the war...

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/970152/posts

U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq's weapons of mass destruction have 
finally been located.

Unfortunately, getting to them will be nearly impossible for the United 
States and its allies, because the containers with the strategic 
materials are not in Iraq.

Instead they are located in Lebanon's heavily-fortified Bekaa Valley, 
swarming with Iranian and Syrian forces, and Hizbullah and ex-Iraqi 
agents, Geostrategy-Direct.com will report in tomorrow's new weekly 
edition.

U.S. intelligence first identified a stream of tractor-trailer trucks 
moving from Iraq to Syria to Lebaon in January 2003. The significance of 
this sighting did not register on the CIA at the time.

U.S. intelligence sources believe the area contains extended-range 
Scud-based missiles and parts for chemical and biological warheads.


Mutually-lucrative Iraqi-Syrian arms transactions are nothing new. Firas 
Tlas, son of Syrian Defense Minister Mustafa Tlas, has been the key to 
Syria's rogue alliance with Iraq. He and Assad made hundreds of millions 
of dollars selling weapons, oil and drugs to and from Iraq, according to 
the May 13, 2003 edition of Geostrategy-Direct.com.

The CIA now believes a multi-million dollar deal between Iraq and Syria 
provided for the hiding and safekeeping of Saddam's strategic weapons

>>"Their main job was to shred
>>all evidence of any of the contractual arrangements they had with the
>>Iraqis. The others were transportation units."
> 
> 
> Ever try to shred a factory, a lab, ammo bunkers 

Can you read?

What a moron.

"evidence of any of the contractual arrangements"

Contracts are generally executed on PAPER you brain stem!

>>     Mr. Shaw, who was in charge of cataloging the tons of conventional
>>arms provided to Iraq by foreign suppliers, said he recently obtained
>>reliable information on the arms-dispersal program from two European
>>intelligence services that have detailed knowledge of the Russian-Iraqi
>>weapons collaboration.
> 
> 
> Oh, gawd, 

Still no factual rebuttal...


>>     Most of Saddam's most powerful arms were systematically separated
>>from other arms like mortars, bombs and rockets, and sent to Syria and
>>Lebanon, and possibly to Iran, he said.
> 
> 
> Get real. Saddam gave his WMDs to any of his mortal enemies? 

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"...

You're a very stupid person Lou, drop fucking dead!


-- 
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Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
#322
Author: Lou P. Garrew
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:47
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Uncle Schmuck trolled:
> 
> Lou P. Garrew wrote:
> 
> > Gullible as ever,
> > Uncle Schlemiel trolled:
> >
> >>Matt Telles wrote:
> >
> >
> > He wrote a question
> 
> He's a fucking lying partisan birdbrain Lou, just like YOU.

Once again you avoid the question he asked, and fail to admit you lied.
Provide evidence that Kerry called the Army stupid. REAL evidence,
not one of your delusions.

> >>THE WASHINGTON TIMES
> >
> >
> > Known as a neo-con source of disinformation.
> 
> Not a factual rebuttal.

Au contraire, it is both factual and a rebuttal.
> 
> >>     John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for
> >>international technology security, said in an interview that he believes
> >>the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, "almost certainly"
> >>removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa
> >>facility, south of Baghdad.
> >
> >
> > "He believes" and "almost certainly" -- in other words he has
> > no convincing evidence, but he'll lie anyway.
> 
> We already know what Russia had at stake there:

By changing the subject you concede that I am right and
you are wrong, surprise, surprise!.
> 
> >>     "The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole
> >>series of military units," Mr. Shaw said.
> >
> >
> > Which our intelligence services didn't notice until just now? What
> > a crock.
> 
> But a "crock" you're uanble to prove.

No, YOU are the one who is required to prove your claim. I say that the
claim
is a clumsy lie which only a jerk like you would make. Provide the FACTS
that support your claim.
> 
> They may have noticed some time prior to the war...
> 
> http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/970152/posts
> 
> U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq's weapons of mass destruction have
> finally been located.
> 
> Unfortunately, getting to them will be nearly impossible for the United
> States and its allies, because the containers with the strategic
> materials are not in Iraq.
> 
So you and your wingnut pals have targetted the next nation to invade?
Who are you going to send? Got a spare army somewhere? Let you in on a 
secret, dumbo: we're stretched thin in Iraq. Thanks to Shrub, we have
no military force to spare. Of course you could always volunteer to
go to war and get YOUR ass shot at.

> > Ever try to shred a factory, a lab, ammo bunkers
> 
> Can you read?
> 
> What a moron.

Yes, you are.
> 
> "evidence of any of the contractual arrangements"
> 
> Contracts are generally executed on PAPER you brain stem!

Hahahahaha! You're so bewildered you don't realize you're insulting
YOURSELF!
> 
> >>     Mr. Shaw, who was in charge of cataloging the tons of conventional
> >>arms provided to Iraq by foreign suppliers, said he recently obtained
> >>reliable information on the arms-dispersal program from two European
> >>intelligence services that have detailed knowledge of the Russian-Iraqi
> >>weapons collaboration.
> >
> >
> > Oh, gawd,
> 
> Still no factual rebuttal...

And you still provide no evidence better than "Well, he says it MIGHT be
true."
> 
> >>     Most of Saddam's most powerful arms were systematically separated
> >>from other arms like mortars, bombs and rockets, and sent to Syria and
> >>Lebanon, and possibly to Iran, he said.
> >
> >
> > Get real. Saddam gave his WMDs to any of his mortal enemies?
> 
> "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"...
> 
> You're a very stupid person Lou, drop fucking dead!
> 
Aw, did I hurt the widdle boy's feelings, potty-mouth? Iz ums angwy
at the mean old man who expects you to act like an adult?

Schmuck, I enjoy seeing you fascists get red in the face. It means
you're scared that Junior may not manage to steal the election
this time. Why you think that is bad is incomprehensible -- unless
you want to see him destroy America. Yeah, that's it -- the ultimate
tantrum for you over-aged children!

Lou P. Garrew, at your service -- and treading on the head of the
Serpent!
Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
#323
Author: Copelandia Cyanescens
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:16
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Graphic Queen wrote...

>>"Matt Telles had 400 tons of apples in his living room. Someone took
>>away 400 tons of apples while Matt Telles was sitting right there
>>watching cartoons. Matt Telles didn't even know it happened."
>>
>>Q: How many apples does Matt Telles have left?
>>
>>Q: How stupid does Matt Telles look?
> 
> How stupid do you look since you never answered the question? But we

I did answer the question, troll. If you're afraid to discuss it
further, just say so. Since you decided to run your big mouth, maybe
you'd like to substitute "Flaming Fucktard" for "Matt Telles" in the
above and give us your personal perspective.

No? Didn't think so.. 

-- 
You just can't let nature run wild.

          -- Gov. Hickel of Alaska
Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
#326
Author: Matt Telles
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:34
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Uncle Samuel <Stars@Stripes.USA> wrote in message news:<Biagd.3503385$ic1.358299@news.easynews.com>...
> Matt Telles wrote:
> 
> http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm
> 
> Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms
> 
> By Bill Gertz
> THE WASHINGTON TIMES
> 
> Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and 
> related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 
> 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.
>      John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for 
> international technology security, said in an interview that he believes 
> the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, "almost certainly" 
> removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa 
> facility, south of Baghdad.
> 
>      "The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole 
> series of military units," Mr. Shaw said. "Their main job was to shred 
> all evidence of any of the contractual arrangements they had with the 
> Iraqis. The others were transportation units."
>      Mr. Shaw, who was in charge of cataloging the tons of conventional 
> arms provided to Iraq by foreign suppliers, said he recently obtained 
> reliable information on the arms-dispersal program from two European 
> intelligence services that have detailed knowledge of the Russian-Iraqi 
> weapons collaboration.
>      Most of Saddam's most powerful arms were systematically separated 
> from other arms like mortars, bombs and rockets, and sent to Syria and 
> Lebanon, and possibly to Iran, he said.

Yes, that has a lot to do with calling the Army stupid. Thank you for
that completely idiotic aside.

Matt
Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
#325
Author: Matt Telles
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:35
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Copelandia Cyanescens <synesthesia@ix02x67invalid.net> wrote in message news:<1d98395wzehos$@x02x67invalid.net>...
> Matt Telles wrote...
> 
> > First of all, when did Kerry call the Army "stupid" as you say in the
> > title of the post?
> 
> To put it in more simplistic terms you *may* be able to grasp...
> 
> "Matt Telles had 400 tons of apples in his living room. Someone took
> away 400 tons of apples while Matt Telles was sitting right there
> watching cartoons. Matt Telles didn't even know it happened."
> 
> Q: How many apples does Matt Telles have left?
> 
> Q: How stupid does Matt Telles look?
> 
> Concentrate real hard, there's no time limit.

Translation: I can't read so I'll just post insults.

I'll put it in simplistic terms you SHOULD be able to understand.

When did Kerry call the Army "stupid" as you say in the title of the post?

> 
> > Secondly, let's look at what Mr Rudy Giuliani, darling of the
> > Republican party said, while travelling with Bush:
> > 
> > Campaign surrogate Giuliani said Thursday on the "Today Show," "No
> > matter how you try to blame it on the president the actual
> > responsibility for it really would be for the troops that were there.
> > Did they search carefully enough? Didn't they search carefully
> > enough?"
> > 
> > Hm. Which one is calling the Army stupid?
> 
> Both of them. Anything else you need cleared up?

Yes, have you yet graduated third grade?

Matt
Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
#316
Author: Uncle Samuel
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:54
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Lou P. Garrew wrote:

> Uncle Schmuck trolled:
> 
>>Lou P. Garrew wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Gullible as ever,
>>>Uncle Schlemiel trolled:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Matt Telles wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>He wrote a question
>>
>>He's a fucking lying partisan birdbrain Lou, just like YOU.
> 
> 
> Once again you avoid the question he asked, and fail to admit you lied.
> Provide evidence that Kerry called the Army stupid. 

I never said that though did I you brain dead sack of shit!

I said Ken Dixon, and likely other soldiers felt that was his intention 
and they were displeased with it.

>>>>THE WASHINGTON TIMES
>>>
>>>
>>>Known as a neo-con source of disinformation.
>>
>>Not a factual rebuttal.
> 
> 
> Au contraire, it is both factual and a rebuttal.

No, it's neither, it falls under the heading of non sequitur unsupported 
resource demonizaton.

You need to learn how to sty on topic shit head.

>>>>    John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for
>>>>international technology security, said in an interview that he believes
>>>>the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, "almost certainly"
>>>>removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa
>>>>facility, south of Baghdad.
>>>
>>>
>>>"He believes" and "almost certainly" -- in other words he has
>>>no convincing evidence, but he'll lie anyway.
>>
>>We already know what Russia had at stake there:
> 
> 
> By changing the subject 

Um the subject is what Russia sold Sod-em and wanted to hide.

You're not very good at this now are you son?

>>>>    "The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole
>>>>series of military units," Mr. Shaw said.
>>>
>>>
>>>Which our intelligence services didn't notice until just now? What
>>>a crock.
>>
>>But a "crock" you're uanble to prove.
> 
> 
> No, YOU are the one who is required to prove your claim. I say that the
> claim
> is a clumsy lie 

Yet somehow you can not factually contradict it, save for your own 
dyspepsia.

>>They may have noticed some time prior to the war...
>>
>>http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/970152/posts
>>
>>U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq's weapons of mass destruction have
>>finally been located.
>>
>>Unfortunately, getting to them will be nearly impossible for the United
>>States and its allies, because the containers with the strategic
>>materials are not in Iraq.
>>
> 
> So you and your wingnut pals have targetted the next nation to invade?
> Who are you going to send? Got a spare army somewhere? Let you in on a 
> secret, dumbo: we're stretched thin in Iraq. 


Not "thin" but presently engaged at least.

No mater, they may have a change of heart like Ghadaffi did, you never know.

Seeing what happened to Sod-em and his kids might be a real wake up call.

>>>Ever try to shred a factory, a lab, ammo bunkers
>>
>>Can you read?
>>
>>What a moron.
> 
> 
> Yes

Yes, you're a weapons grade moron.

>>"evidence of any of the contractual arrangements"
>>
>>Contracts are generally executed on PAPER you brain stem!
> 
> 
> Hahahahaha! 

Um, seek help, you're balmy.

>>>>    Mr. Shaw, who was in charge of cataloging the tons of conventional
>>>>arms provided to Iraq by foreign suppliers, said he recently obtained
>>>>reliable information on the arms-dispersal program from two European
>>>>intelligence services that have detailed knowledge of the Russian-Iraqi
>>>>weapons collaboration.
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, gawd,
>>
>>Still no factual rebuttal...
> 
> 
> And you still provide no evidence 

That's up to how much the Pentagon and CIA choose to share of their sat. 
imagery.

>>>>    Most of Saddam's most powerful arms were systematically separated
>>>
>>>>from other arms like mortars, bombs and rockets, and sent to Syria and
>>>
>>>>Lebanon, and possibly to Iran, he said.
>>>
>>>
>>>Get real. Saddam gave his WMDs to any of his mortal enemies?
>>
>>"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"...
>>
>>You're a very stupid person Lou, drop fucking dead!
>>
> 
> Aw, did I hurt the widdle boy's feelings, 

I don't know, were you abusing your child while you typed this?

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Re: Kerry loses it, calls Army "stupid"
#315
Author: Uncle Samuel
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:54
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Matt Telles wrote:

> Uncle Samuel <Stars@Stripes.USA> wrote in message news:<Biagd.3503385$ic1.358299@news.easynews.com>...
> 
>>Matt Telles wrote:
>>
>>http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041028-122637-6257r.htm
>>
>>Russia tied to Iraq's missing arms
>>
>>By Bill Gertz
>>THE WASHINGTON TIMES
>>
>>Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and 
>>related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 
>>2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.
>>     John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for 
>>international technology security, said in an interview that he believes 
>>the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, "almost certainly" 
>>removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa 
>>facility, south of Baghdad.
>>
>>     "The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole 
>>series of military units," Mr. Shaw said. "Their main job was to shred 
>>all evidence of any of the contractual arrangements they had with the 
>>Iraqis. The others were transportation units."
>>     Mr. Shaw, who was in charge of cataloging the tons of conventional 
>>arms provided to Iraq by foreign suppliers, said he recently obtained 
>>reliable information on the arms-dispersal program from two European 
>>intelligence services that have detailed knowledge of the Russian-Iraqi 
>>weapons collaboration.
>>     Most of Saddam's most powerful arms were systematically separated 
>>from other arms like mortars, bombs and rockets, and sent to Syria and 
>>Lebanon, and possibly to Iran, he said.
> 
> 
> Yes, that has a lot to do with calling the Army stupid.

Well look at it this way, they can't secure what had already been taken 
away...

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