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Re: Gun Registry

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From: Frank E. Spencer
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:39
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"Andrew" <andrewnospam@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> I'm sorry but me owning the government money in no way correlates to me
> owing them access to my DNA.

Are you stoned or stupid? Pay attention for a moment, and read before you
comment.

Okay, in the case of the DMV, if you owe the government any money, they can
refuse you services until you pay that money. This is the stance they take,
regardless of the fact that your taxes pay for the institution, and you are
paying the requested fee for the services. Like your license or a vehicle
registration. As far as they are concerned it doesn't matter. You owe money,
so you can't have service. This is the mentality.
Now, lets fast forward to a DNA database, using the same screwed up
mentality.
This time, they made it law that you have to provide a DNA sample to the
database. Remember, this is law not voluntary.
So, you go to the doctor, or hospital for an injury perhaps, or illness and
they say they have to get your DNA sample from you. You protest because you
don't believe they should have it. They simply say you can't be treated
then.
You want treatment, you let them take a blood sample for your DNA. Or, they
simply take it and don't tell you because it's the law anyway and you are
supposed to provide a sample. If you have nothing to hide why worry right?
Never mind the fact that your taxes pay for medical care, or the hospital or
anything else. The new law says, no DNA, no service.

The same mentality prevails. It isn't about money, it's about the way they
think.
Keep in mind, you pay your taxes, and certain services are presumed. Granted
we agree that a fee to register a car, or issue a license is okay because
stuff does cost money. However, they decided that if you owe money to the
government, they will not provide you services which you should be able to
receive.
The law is non discriminatory as well. It doesn't matter if you owe fines on
vehicle infractions, or fines resulting from an assault case, or from
failure to pay child support.
If you owe ANY money you can't get a license, or register a vehicle, or a
whole host of other government services until you pay what you owe.
They will carry over this thinking to any DNA database idea they conceive.
It will become law that you must provide a sample. If you don't provide a
sample, you can't receive medical services. Conversely, they might just take
the sample anyway, and never tell you about it. Justification, it's the law
and only a person with something to hide would argue.
If you do have something to hide, well it's good that they took the sample
then isn't it. One more unsolved rape case closed.

Frank E. Spencer
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