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Article #4683Re: Gun Registry
From: Frank E. Spencer
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 03:35
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 03:35
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"Calgary Rob" <calgaryrobnospam@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:hpqT9.9929$H7.358578@news2.calgary.shaw.ca... > "Sensei Brent" <senseibrentxxx@shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:3E1DD5B6.68285F00@shaw.ca... > > DNA information is potentially far too dangerous to just let out of the > bag at > > this time. People will absolutely misuse the information whether for > > nefarious purposes, commercial purposes or because they believe they are > doing > > good (but are wrong). > > Now you start this thread claiming my argument is weak, yet you end it > stating exactly what I was stating. I am not afraid of DNA databases, and > would like to see research done on the subject. As it stands, I have seen > nothing to say they are bad, except for some week accusations against the > government, and myself. I've been staying out of this DNA thing since I said my piece about the gun registry. However, this message made me want to answer. You say weak accusations. While I don't think that they are weak, we are talking about the government. You don't need strong accusations with them. If there is some way they can benefit from it, either financially, or by exerting more control, they will use it. This is the same institution that has been insinuating itself into your home, your work place, and your way of life for over 50 years. They are only getting better at it. If you assume for a moment that the gun registry is anything but either a piss poor mistake, or the first step toward banning and confiscation than you are as deluded as the majority of people. A DNA database suggests whole new possibilities for control, regulation, and discrimination all under the guise of the public good. Hey, you don't want to insure people who are susceptible to a genetic illness, they drive up costs for everyone else. Look, this guy has genetic tendencies that suggest he may be prone to violence, we better keep tabs on him in case he does something. Sweet jesus, this guy's DNA is similar to the DNA of a known pedophile, go pick him up right away. Allow the government to take a few nibbles at your rights and freedoms, and you set the stage for them to continue doing it. You can't ride a bicycle without a helmet, you can't own a gun without locking it, then locking it away, and then locking up the bullets somewhere else. Then there are handguns, and that's even worse. A criminal doesn't give a fuck about the laws, he'll be in your house and perhaps raping your daughter in front of you all at the end of a gun. Since you can't have a gun at the ready, you run a greater risk if you choose to defend your home and family. All in the name of the public good. A gun registry reduces crime? It allows the identification of a weapon? Since when? What idiotic moron would believe this? The majority of guns used in crimes are stolen, or never registered in the first place. The registry won't tell an officer if there is a weapon present, it won't lead to the killer. It will just lead to a poor bastard who becomes a suspect because he lost a gun. Add DNA, and now all of a sudden, you have a smoking gun, found at the scene of a crime and it has DNA that shows the "owner" had the gun. In the minds of the great unwashed that's enough to make a conviction. You damn near can't smoke anywhere now. You might think that is fine because you are a non-smoker, but that still infringes MY rights. Yes, I have a right to smoke around you, get freaking used to it. See, even the laws that the new anti smoking bill were enacted under are only meant to prevent IMMEDIATE dangers to health and safety. I don't give a care what you think, but some guy in a restaurant smoking isn't an immediate danger to your health or safety. Further, even 30 people isn't an immediate danger. We are living in an age of political correctness, and mis-information. Spin doctoring, and law suits. Companies print silly warnings on boxes and packages because if some dumb asshole irons his clothes while he is wearing them, he's likely to sue. Pardon me, but this brain dead fuck shouldn't get one red cent if he is that fucking stupid. Then onto the lady who sued McDonalds because she spilled her HOT coffee into her crotch. What the hell was that about? It's coffee, you were maybe expecting it to be COLD? More to the point, what were you doing sitting it between your thighs? You're pussy a little cold lady? So, now we have laws to protect us from ourselves. Made up by people who can't even make up their mind. Case in point, the Nova Scotia MLA who said one day he wouldn't register his gun as a form of protest, and then the next day says he has to do his duty as a public servant and follow the laws whether he likes them or not. Ah yes, the old party two step. Idiots like to scream that Trudeau is the anti-christ because he legalized abortion. They're full of crap, and Trudeau was right. The state has no damn business in the bedrooms of the nation. He decriminalized birth control and abortion so that proper family planning could be done, and women would be allowed to have control over their bodies. A right which no man ever questioned. Now, all of a sudden the government doesn't want back into your bedroom, it wants into the most private parts of your body. The very code that makes up your cellular structure. The basis of everything that makes you who you are. You think for a moment that you can trust them to not abuse this information in one form or another? You think that they won't find a way to profit from it, or to discriminate services from you based on this or that in your genetic code? You're dreaming. The reason for this? You already let them take small nibbles at your rights. You're let them tell you how to live, and behave, and made you your brother's keeper. Now, they are getting ready to take bites, and not nibbles. When that time comes, you better hope that there are enough people out there who didn't believe the lies to come to your rescue. Although, come to think of it, if you thought you needed it, maybe you do after all. Be careful, in a few months, you won't be able to eat a steak, because red meat is bad for your health. Your poor health could cause you to have a heart attack while driving your car, and you could kill someone. We wouldn't want that now would we. So, put down that knife and fork. Better yet, give me the knife, because you could use that as a weapon, and hurt someone. We wouldn't want that now would we? Frank E. Spencer
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