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Article #5176Re: ISP prepared to identify alleged file swappers
From: Peter D
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 02:59
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 02:59
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<email_me@mts.net> wrote in message news:d67533tesiqrsu704pfsrdc18kdr6ucub8@4ax.com... > x-no-archive: yes On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:07:54 -0500, "Peter D" > <please@.sk> wrote: > >><email_me@mts.net> wrote in message >>news:kp5433dbij13t7e77sies9hhi98j57gmfi@4ax.com... >>> >>> With comments like "there's nothing wrong with his company identifying >>> alleged file swappers when ordered to do so" , the opperative word is >>> alleged. This ISP deseves to have their users leave them enmass, what >>> ever happened to innocent till proven guilty? >> >>> http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2005/04/21/swap050421.html >>> >>> A lawyer for ISP Videotron says there's nothing wrong with his company >>> identifying alleged file swappers when ordered to do so. >>> >>> "We do it on a regular basis [when issued a court order]. It's not >>> very complicated," Serge Sasseville said in an interview with the >>> Canadian Press. >> >>You imply that it's some sort of arbitrary and capricious act on their >>part, >>or that other ISPs would not act this way in the same set of >>circumstances. >>They would if they're smart. >> >>The significant part of the quote is "when issued a court order". The ISP >>is >>*required by law* to comply. There is not 'right' being infringed by their >>compliance. It's a matter of obeying the law. > > > It's not an illegal act in Canada, so what Canadian court would > capriciously issue it? Noe. Courts aren't "capricious". > It would have to be an American court order which holds no weight in > Canada. Or a US Court Order served on a US company with access and mirror images/copies of the servers of its Canadian subsidaries. Or a US Court request to a Canadian Court to serve same. Or the result of a request that a Canadian Court deemed sufficent to warrant an Order.
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