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Article #5177Re: ISP prepared to identify alleged file swappers
From: Peter D
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 05:30
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 05:30
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<email_me@mts.net> wrote in message news:pcf533lroeirkqoonqgrljrl90ujnhgmd5@4ax.com... > x-no-archive: yes On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:59:39 -0500, "Peter D" > <please@.sk> wrote: >><email_me@mts.net> wrote in message >>news:d67533tesiqrsu704pfsrdc18kdr6ucub8@4ax.com... >>> x-no-archive: yes On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:07:54 -0500, "Peter D" >>> <please@.sk> wrote: >>> >>>><email_me@mts.net> wrote in message >>>>news:kp5433dbij13t7e77sies9hhi98j57gmfi@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> With comments like "there's nothing wrong with his company identifying >>>>> alleged file swappers when ordered to do so" , the opperative word is >>>>> alleged. This ISP deseves to have their users leave them enmass, what >>>>> ever happened to innocent till proven guilty? >>>> >>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2005/04/21/swap050421.html >>>>> >>>>> A lawyer for ISP Videotron says there's nothing wrong with his company >>>>> identifying alleged file swappers when ordered to do so. >>>>> >>>>> "We do it on a regular basis [when issued a court order]. It's not >>>>> very complicated," Serge Sasseville said in an interview with the >>>>> Canadian Press. >>>> >>>>You imply that it's some sort of arbitrary and capricious act on their >>>>part, >>>>or that other ISPs would not act this way in the same set of >>>>circumstances. >>>>They would if they're smart. >>>> >>>>The significant part of the quote is "when issued a court order". The >>>>ISP >>>>is >>>>*required by law* to comply. There is not 'right' being infringed by >>>>their >>>>compliance. It's a matter of obeying the law. >>> >>> >>> It's not an illegal act in Canada, so what Canadian court would >>> capriciously issue it? >> >>Noe. Courts aren't "capricious". >> >>> It would have to be an American court order which holds no weight in >>> Canada. >> >>Or a US Court Order served on a US company with access and mirror >>images/copies of the servers of its Canadian subsidaries. Or a US Court >>request to a Canadian Court to serve same. Or the result of a request that >>a >>Canadian Court deemed sufficent to warrant an Order. >> > > > God your stupid dolman, it's not illegal to download in Canada, how > more simply do I need to put it so you'll eventually understand. No, you're stupid because you think that saying, "it's not illegal in Canada" is sufficent to prevent a Court from issuing a Order. You know jack shit about Court Orders, applying for them, or acting on them. It's my personal opinion that the results of such an Order wouldn't result in a charge being laid, but that doesn't stop an Order form being server -- and once served, it doens't matter whehter the ISp agrees with it or not. FWIW, it doesn't matter what you agree with or not, O CLueless Wonder. Now stfu and go ask mommy to tuck you in!
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