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Started by JJ_JUAREZ
Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:46
Basing Catalog Styles on Other Styles
Author: JJ_JUAREZ
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:46
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:46
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I am using FrameMaker 7 and 8 for Windows on XP SP2. I have worked with FrameMaker since 1991 on Windows and Macintosh. In older versions, FrameMaker offered an option when creating a new catalog entry (style) to BASE IT ON an Existing Style. I am positive I used this feature in FrameMaker. It is also available in PageMaker, InDesign, QuarkXPress, etc. I can no longer find this feature. Can someone please help me. Does it still exist? The idea behind this feature is to create a style that will automatically update itself to the new settings of the style it is based on. For example, if a create a style (Paragraph Catalog entry) named "Bullet Level 1" and then create and BASE a style called "No Bullet Level 1" on the "Bullet Level 1" Catalog entry...... as I change the point size of "Bullet Level 1"... in kind, the "No Bullet Level 1" will also reflect the point size change.... since it is based on "Bullet Level 1" I cannot believe that this feature was removed, but I can find nowhere in the documentation, forums, or Google to support that this feature still exists. Thank you very much.
Re: Basing Catalog Styles on Other Styles
Author: ShlomoPerets
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:51
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:51
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I have also worked with FrameMaker since 1991 (FM3 on Windows; briefly used FM2.1 on Unix before then). I don't remember a "Based On" feature being available in any of the versions. Structured FrameMaker (which started as FrameBuilder, parallel to FM4; later FM+SGML, parallel to FM5 and FM6) does have a similar feature as part of the formatting features available through the EDD. Shlomo Perets MicroType, <http://www.microtype.com> * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants
Re: Basing Catalog Styles on Other Styles
Author: R._VanDyke
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:50
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:50
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JJ: As far as I know, the "based on" feature exists in Word and OpenOffice Writer (and probably some other programs that I don't work with), but has never existed in FrameMaker... Cheers & hope this helps, Riley
Re: Basing Catalog Styles on Other Styles
Author: Michael Kazlow
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:43
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:43
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I have been using FrameMaker on the Mac since 3.2 and 4.0 on the PC. Frame hasn't had that capability as long as I've used the product. In fact, I must say I'm rather glad it doesn't. For me it seems like a house of cards. Though I can see why people like it. Mike
Re: Basing Catalog Styles on Other Styles
Author: Peter_Gold
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:47
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:47
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Hi, JJ: What are you trying to accomplish with a based-on format? Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Re: Basing Catalog Styles on Other Styles
Author: Sam_Erickson-Reed
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:27
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:27
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There is a way! Open the Paragraph Designer and select the style on which you want to base a new style. In the Commands list, at the very bottom of the Paragraph Designer dialog box, select New Format. The New Format dialog box opens. Now you can name the new format (tag), and select whether or not you want to a) store it in the catalog, and b) apply it to whatever text the cursor was in when you opened the Paragraph Designer. When you click Create, you will then be able to tweak the font, tabs, etc. for the new tag and then click Update All. Hope that helps! Sam E-R
Re: Basing Catalog Styles on Other Styles
Author: Kenneth_Benson
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:10
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:10
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This shortcuts the process of making the style, but it doesn't make a "based-on" style in the same way that JJ Juarez wants. He wants styles that permanently reflect the inherited properties of the styles they are based on. In other words, if you make a style called "Text" and define it to be 10/12 Sabon, then make a new style called "Extract" based on Text and define it to have 36 pt indents left and right, when you later change Text to Goudy, Extract will change to Goudy as well. This kind of style structure, if properly set up, allows you to very easily modify entire stylesheets. You can show the client how the whole book will look in several different typefaces, simply by making one font change to one style. As implemented in Indesign, this is a choice. Any style can be either based on another style, or based on No Style. -- Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com
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