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Mamata Mahapatra wrote:

> I have a installed Win2000 on a machine in Hard Disk 1 and after that I
> installed Linux 7.1 on Hard Disk 2 on the same machine.
>
> When I start the machine, I do not see LILO coming up to give the option to
> whether to start Win2000 or Linux. It just starts Win2000 O/S as default.
>
> Does anyone know what do I need to do to be able to start LILO started.

You had to have installed lilo during the Red Hat install.

Take the boot floppy (you did choose to make a boot
floppy when prompted, right?) and boot into Linux.

Then you have all the options you need. You can
install lilo, if need be, or just continue to use the
boot floppy whenever you want to run Linux.

cu

jjs

"Mamata Mahapatra" <mmaha4752@home.net> wrote in message news:<ofTp7.38559$sM1.11990721@news3.rdc1.on.home.com>...
> I have a installed Win2000 on a machine in Hard Disk 1 and after that I
> installed Linux 7.1 on Hard Disk 2 on the same machine.
> 
> When I start the machine, I do not see LILO coming up to give the option to
> whether to start Win2000 or Linux. It just starts Win2000 O/S as default.
> 
> Does anyone know what do I need to do to be able to start LILO started.

Listen to this:
the boot floppy is not needed.
After you have installed both your OSs boot from the Linux cd 1.
As soon as it comes to the point where you have to choose from expert
mode or lowres or text etc .. --this is right at the beginnig--
type : vmlinuz root=/dev/<your root_partition_number_here> eg hdb1
This will boot the vmlinuz kernel with root filesystem the one you
will specify.
Some things might not work, or strange error messages might appear.
Don't be worried.
As soon as you can login (login in console not in the X), login as
root.
Check that the file /etc/lilo.conf meets your disk configuration and
if it does type /sbin/lilo.
this will rewrite lilo in the MBR.
then if everything goes fine and no lilo error occured, type init 6
and you're ok!!!!


Hope i helped, let us know what happened.
Regards Chris.

Since LILO did mount, you will need to do the following things to do a dual
boot.

1.  Use your Linux boot disk to boot up into Linux
2.  Log into linux and open an environment
3.  Log into that environment
4.  Type the following command at the prompt?
    dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
        (* Quick Note:  hda2 is the partition of my hard drive where linux
is installed *)
5.  This will create a file called bootsect.lnx.
6.  Remove the linux boot disk from your floppy drive.
7.  Insert a regular DOS disk into the floppy
8.  Copy the bootsect.lnx file to the floppy using the following command at
the prompt
    mcopy /bootsect.lnx a:
9.  Remove the DOS floppy and reboot
10.  When your system reboots it should boot in Windows
11.  Log into your windows session and insert the DOS floppy back in
12.  Copy the bootsect.lnx to the root dir of C:\
13.  Now go to START | PROGRAMS  | WINDOWS EXPLORER
14.  Navigate to c:\boot.ini
15.  Right click your mouse on it and uncheck the READ-ONLY
16.  Edit the boot.ini file and add the following lines at the end (*
c:\bootsect.lnx="Redhat Linux Version 7.1"  *)  .
    [boot loader]
    timeout=05
    default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
    [operating systems]
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation
Version 4.00"
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation
Version 4.00 [VGA mode]" /basevideo /sos
    c:\bootsect.lnx="Redhat Linux Version 7.1"
17.  Save the boot.ini file
18.  Make the file READ-ONLY again
19.  Remove the floppy and REBOOT your system
20.  When the pc reboots, you should be able to see the menu and select
Windows or Linux

Argus


Mamata Mahapatra <mmaha4752@home.net> wrote in message
news:ofTp7.38559$sM1.11990721@news3.rdc1.on.home.com...
> I have a installed Win2000 on a machine in Hard Disk 1 and after that I
> installed Linux 7.1 on Hard Disk 2 on the same machine.
>
> When I start the machine, I do not see LILO coming up to give the option
to
> whether to start Win2000 or Linux. It just starts Win2000 O/S as default.
>
> Does anyone know what do I need to do to be able to start LILO started.
>
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Another option would be to just tell LILO during the installation to
install itself on the boot sector of the linux partition, and not in
the MBR, right?

br0wni3

If you didn't make bootup disk for linux then you will have to install all
over again! make sure you made primary linux partitions before installing
linux again
you can do it with partition magic 6 ....
Tina

Mamata Mahapatra <mmaha4752@home.net> wrote in message
news:ofTp7.38559$sM1.11990721@news3.rdc1.on.home.com...
> I have a installed Win2000 on a machine in Hard Disk 1 and after that I
> installed Linux 7.1 on Hard Disk 2 on the same machine.
>
> When I start the machine, I do not see LILO coming up to give the option
to
> whether to start Win2000 or Linux. It just starts Win2000 O/S as default.
>
> Does anyone know what do I need to do to be able to start LILO started.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> 
> Mamata Mahapatra <mmaha4752@home.net> wrote in message
> news:ofTp7.38559$sM1.11990721@news3.rdc1.on.home.com...
> > I have a installed Win2000 on a machine in Hard Disk 1 and after that I
> > installed Linux 7.1 on Hard Disk 2 on the same machine.
> >
> > When I start the machine, I do not see LILO coming up to give the option
>  to
> > whether to start Win2000 or Linux. It just starts Win2000 O/S as default.
> >
> > Does anyone know what do I need to do to be able to start LILO started.
> >

It is possible to have both disks set up as primary and active and
install LILO into the MBR of disk 1 (with RH7.1) and get that to boot
disk 2 and fool NT(Win2000) into loading from its normal MBR route.
However you would need to edit your RH7.1 FSTAB so that all partitions
are on HDA and not HDB as they are currently. If your interested i'll
post again.

David

The RedHat installation CD's are bootable and offer a 
"rescue" option that mounts your local drives to
something like "/sysimage".  It should be possible to
install lilo that way (either via lilo -R /sysimage/etc... 
or chroot /sysimage /sbin/lilo).

Reinstalling the os should only be necessary as a last 
resort.

-S

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:28:57 +0200, Valentina <vanyans@eunet.yu> wrote:
>If you didn't make bootup disk for linux then you will have to install all
>over again! make sure you made primary linux partitions before installing
>linux again
>you can do it with partition magic 6 ....
>Tina
>
>Mamata Mahapatra <mmaha4752@home.net> wrote in message
>news:ofTp7.38559$sM1.11990721@news3.rdc1.on.home.com...
>> I have a installed Win2000 on a machine in Hard Disk 1 and after that I
>> installed Linux 7.1 on Hard Disk 2 on the same machine.
>>
>> When I start the machine, I do not see LILO coming up to give the option
>to
>> whether to start Win2000 or Linux. It just starts Win2000 O/S as default.
>>
>> Does anyone know what do I need to do to be able to start LILO started.
>>
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oops...I think I meant "lilo -C /sysimage/etc/lilo.conf"

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 23:14:17 GMT, S C Rigler <steve@sluggo.win95sux2.com> wrote:
>The RedHat installation CD's are bootable and offer a 
>"rescue" option that mounts your local drives to
>something like "/sysimage".  It should be possible to
>install lilo that way (either via lilo -R /sysimage/etc... 
>or chroot /sysimage /sbin/lilo).
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Well,
I recommend that you buy  a distribution of Linux, ie.. SuSE, Redhat,
Mandrake... I have Suse and it comes with 5 manuals, and you get support
from the company. It is worth the money since most personal package
distributions are $30, including CD's and manuals. The manual will
definately tell you how to setup LILO, I know mine does (Suse 7.2). I would
tell you, but it is rather lenghty for me to type....
Mamata Mahapatra <mmaha4752@home.net> wrote in message
news:ofTp7.38559$sM1.11990721@news3.rdc1.on.home.com...
> I have a installed Win2000 on a machine in Hard Disk 1 and after that I
> installed Linux 7.1 on Hard Disk 2 on the same machine.
>
> When I start the machine, I do not see LILO coming up to give the option
to
> whether to start Win2000 or Linux. It just starts Win2000 O/S as default.
>
> Does anyone know what do I need to do to be able to start LILO started.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

yes after you had installed win2000 your master boot record of your harddisk
was overwrited with the nt-loader! Your lilo loader was deleted! Install
first win2000 and then linux or reinstall your lilo boot loader with
/sbin/lilo and befor diskdump the win2000 loader!

I would suggest reading this link.  Seems to do a good job of explaining the
different parts and the particular order and steps
http://www.enterprisedt.com/publications/dual_boot.html



"Spiritualized" <ssethi6@home.com> wrote in message
news:mpXx7.168818$K6.80409804@news2...
> Well,
> I recommend that you buy  a distribution of Linux, ie.. SuSE, Redhat,
> Mandrake... I have Suse and it comes with 5 manuals, and you get support
> from the company. It is worth the money since most personal package
> distributions are $30, including CD's and manuals. The manual will
> definately tell you how to setup LILO, I know mine does (Suse 7.2). I
would
> tell you, but it is rather lenghty for me to type....
> Mamata Mahapatra <mmaha4752@home.net> wrote in message
> news:ofTp7.38559$sM1.11990721@news3.rdc1.on.home.com...
> > I have a installed Win2000 on a machine in Hard Disk 1 and after that I
> > installed Linux 7.1 on Hard Disk 2 on the same machine.
> >
> > When I start the machine, I do not see LILO coming up to give the option
> to
> > whether to start Win2000 or Linux. It just starts Win2000 O/S as
default.
> >
> > Does anyone know what do I need to do to be able to start LILO started.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Markus Halm wrote:
> 
> yes after you had installed win2000 your master boot record of your harddisk
> was overwrited with the nt-loader! Your lilo loader was deleted! Install
> first win2000 and then linux or reinstall your lilo boot loader with
> /sbin/lilo and befor diskdump the win2000 loader!


Ummm ... booting win2k from Lilo is bad. Loading any NT from lilo is
bad. NT comes with a bootloader. Simply add the partition with linux on
it to your boot loader text file in windows.

See:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/5300/index.html#dualboot

Rob Neff wrote:
> 
> Markus Halm wrote:
> >
> > yes after you had installed win2000 your master boot record of your harddisk
> > was overwrited with the nt-loader! Your lilo loader was deleted! Install
> > first win2000 and then linux or reinstall your lilo boot loader with
> > /sbin/lilo and befor diskdump the win2000 loader!
> 
> Ummm ... booting win2k from Lilo is bad. Loading any NT from lilo is
> bad. NT comes with a bootloader. Simply add the partition with linux on
> it to your boot loader text file in windows.
> 
> See:
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/5300/index.html#dualboot

out of curiosity... why do you say booting win2k from lilo is bad? I've
been doing this with several distros for about 18 months with no
problems whatsoever.

Jim

Jim Ankrum wrote:
> 
> Rob Neff wrote:
> >
> > Ummm ... booting win2k from Lilo is bad. Loading any
> > NT from lilo is bad. NT comes with a bootloader. Simply
> > add the partition with linux on it to your boot loader
> > text file in windows.
> >
> > See:
> > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/5300/index.html#dualboot
> 
> out of curiosity... why do you say booting win2k
> from lilo is bad? I've  been doing this with several
> distros for about 18 months with no problems whatsoever.

Indeed, I'm curious too. I've always done it this way.

 1) Install NT/Win2k
 2) Install Linux. Redhat will auto-detect the NT partition
    and add it to the Lilo menu...

You need to boot from a linux CD. Once you've got a shell, you can mount
your existing linux partition (e.g., mount /dev/hda /mnt), then run lilo
again:

  chroot /mnt lilo -v

Once you've got linux booting again, then you'll want to edit your
lilo.conf file to add the winnt partition to the list of bootable
partitions and run lilo again. 

Don't listen to the people who say that you can't boot winnt from lilo.
Any recent version of lilo can do this easily.

Regards,
Dave Carrigan

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:17:56 -0700, Mamata Mahapatra wrote:

> I have a installed Win2000 on a machine in Hard Disk 1 and after that I
> installed Linux 7.1 on Hard Disk 2 on the same machine.
> 
> When I start the machine, I do not see LILO coming up to give the option
> to whether to start Win2000 or Linux. It just starts Win2000 O/S as
> default.
> 
> Does anyone know what do I need to do to be able to start LILO started.

Dave Carrigan wrote:

> You need to boot from a linux CD.

Or a boot floppy -

Slackware boot floppies are great for this,
I use them to resurrect Red Hat boxes that
had boot sector issues, and it works fine -
Just use the "mount" option and it starts
up your normal (well almost) Linux system.

Then you could just run "lilo" after editing
/etc/lilo.conf as pointed out by the previous
poster -

jjs

Simon Gornall wrote:

> Indeed, I'm curious too. I've always done it this way.
> 
>  1) Install NT/Win2k
>  2) Install Linux. Redhat will auto-detect the NT partition
>     and add it to the Lilo menu...

I've always done it the other way (I have so many computers now that I
don't do dual-boot systems anymore, but I have done dual boot systems
using Win95 and NT4 ... Never bothered with win2k, because at that
point, like I said, I had enough boxes that dual booting was just
silly). I've had problems doing it your way, and my research dug up
several web pages that indicate the best way is to use Microsoft's boot
loader when using NT.

Obviously, if it works for you, it ain't broke and you shouldn't fix it.
If it's not working for you, use Microsoft's boot loader.

Simon Gornall wrote:

> Rob Neff wrote:
>> 
>> Simon Gornall wrote:

> Redhat 7.1 highlights my '/' partition as invalid (red)
> because it starts after cylinder 1024. Should this be
> a concern, or should I just go ahead anyway. Before just
> buying more disks for everyone, I'd like to see if we
> could install linux into the 2nd 20G of disk space...
> 
> Would I do better by installing Linux into the 1st 20Gb,
> then installing win2k into the 2nd 20Gb and using the
> Win2k bootloader ?
> 
> ATB,
> Simon.

Should be no problem with Linux starting 20GB inward on the drive:

[etc]# fdisk -l /dev/hda

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 5005 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *         1      1658  13317853+   b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda2          1659      2484   6634845   a6  OpenBSD
/dev/hda3          2485      3268   6297480    8  AIX
/dev/hda4          3269      5005  13952452+   5  Extended
/dev/hda5          3269      3421   1228972   83  Linux native
/dev/hda6          3422      3487    530144+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda7          3488      3500    104422   83  Linux native
/dev/hda8          3501      3908   3277259+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda9          3909      5005   8811652   83  Linux native

As you can see here, mine starts ~26GB inward.

Rob Neff wrote:
> 
> Simon Gornall wrote:
> 
> > Indeed, I'm curious too. I've always done it this way.
> >
> >  1) Install NT/Win2k
> >  2) Install Linux. Redhat will auto-detect the NT partition
> >     and add it to the Lilo menu...
> 
> I've always done it the other way (I have so many
> computers now that I don't do dual-boot systems anymore,
> but I have done dual boot systems using Win95 and NT4 ...
> Never bothered with win2k, because at that
> point, like I said, I had enough boxes that dual booting
> was just silly). I've had problems doing it your way,
> and my research dug up several web pages that indicate
> the best way is to use Microsoft's boot loader when using
> NT.

Like I said, I was just curious... It does (generally, see
later) work for me, but I'm interested in knowing better
ways to do it if it ever might not work.

Of course, after using words like 'always', I now have a
problem :-)

I've just bought 5 new computers, 4 of which need to dual
boot into win2k/linux. We partitioned the 40Gb disks into
2x20Gb partitions within the Win2k install procedure, and
installed Win2k into the 1st partition. So far, so good.

Redhat 7.1 highlights my '/' partition as invalid (red)
because it starts after cylinder 1024. Should this be
a concern, or should I just go ahead anyway. Before just
buying more disks for everyone, I'd like to see if we
could install linux into the 2nd 20G of disk space...

Would I do better by installing Linux into the 1st 20Gb,
then installing win2k into the 2nd 20Gb and using the 
Win2k bootloader ?

ATB,
	Simon.

> Of course, after using words like 'always', I now have a
> problem :-)
> 
> I've just bought 5 new computers, 4 of which need to dual
> boot into win2k/linux. We partitioned the 40Gb disks into
> 2x20Gb partitions within the Win2k install procedure, and
> installed Win2k into the 1st partition. So far, so good.
> 
> Redhat 7.1 highlights my '/' partition as invalid (red)
> because it starts after cylinder 1024. Should this be
> a concern, or should I just go ahead anyway. Before just
> buying more disks for everyone, I'd like to see if we
> could install linux into the 2nd 20G of disk space...
> 
> Would I do better by installing Linux into the 1st 20Gb,
> then installing win2k into the 2nd 20Gb and using the
> Win2k bootloader ?
> 
> ATB,
>         Simon.

I've done installs with RedHat like this... just do the install in text
mode or expert mode. Add the flag lba32 to the lilo configuration and it
should go just fine.

Jim