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Finally! Absolute PROOF that aliens exist! And it was right there in
the Bible this whole time!!! How could we have missed it???

On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:03:19 GMT, "storm" <storm@maqs.net> wrote:

>cont...
> When they had heard the King, they went their way; and look! The Star they
>had seen in the east went ahead of them,until it came to a stop above where
>the young child was. On seeing the Star they rejoiced very much indeed. and
>when they went into the house they saw the young child with Mary its
>mother.
>
>           MATTHEW 2: 9,10,11
>
>
> Matthew records that "wisemen from the east" followed what they thought
>was a Star to the place of Christ. The Bible says the wisemen followed the
>Star "till it came to rest over the place where the child was. Star do not
>move like this nor do they move and then suddenly stop. After the wisemen
>initially saw the "Star" they had to pack up, perpare for the long journey
>by camel. So there is no reason to believe that Christ would still be in
>the manger by the time they arrived, and they came into the house and saw
>the child with Mary his mother.
> This verse says they came into the "house", not stable, and saw the
>"child", not baby, with Mary. One of the most spectacular aspects of the
>story is the "Star". The greek word for "Star" in the gospel account can
>mean "any luminous Heavenly Body".
> "Are we not seeing LUMINOUS HEAVENLY BODIES today in our skies
>
>                                                                           
>               to be continued
>
>
>[ISFA]
>"WOULD LIKE TO HEAR COMMENTS"
>   
>        -storm-
>

Give it a rest kid, you can't even prove that you are ;

a) awake
b) alive

Both of these states cannot be proven, only "taken for granted".
Let me tell you about life child, some things you're gonna have to take for
granted.
There, that is science for you. If you want to play hardball, play it.
Having witnesses is not any proof, being killed is not proof either of life.

I welcome anybody to challenge my statements (perhaps i might learn
something).

Vemund Ally
__________>

Gregg wrote in message <36affb97.94988197@news.thegrid.net>...
>Finally! Absolute PROOF that aliens exist! And it was right there in
>the Bible this whole time!!! How could we have missed it???
>
>On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:03:19 GMT, "storm" <storm@maqs.net> wrote:
>
>>cont...
>> When they had heard the King, they went their way; and look! The Star
they
>>had seen in the east went ahead of them,until it came to a stop above
where
>>the young child was. On seeing the Star they rejoiced very much indeed.
and
>>when they went into the house they saw the young child with Mary its
>>mother.
>>
>>           MATTHEW 2: 9,10,11
>>
>>
>> Matthew records that "wisemen from the east" followed what they thought
>>was a Star to the place of Christ. The Bible says the wisemen followed the
>>Star "till it came to rest over the place where the child was. Star do not
>>move like this nor do they move and then suddenly stop. After the wisemen
>>initially saw the "Star" they had to pack up, perpare for the long journey
>>by camel. So there is no reason to believe that Christ would still be in
>>the manger by the time they arrived, and they came into the house and saw
>>the child with Mary his mother.
>> This verse says they came into the "house", not stable, and saw the
>>"child", not baby, with Mary. One of the most spectacular aspects of the
>>story is the "Star". The greek word for "Star" in the gospel account can
>>mean "any luminous Heavenly Body".
>> "Are we not seeing LUMINOUS HEAVENLY BODIES today in our skies
>>
>>
>>               to be continued
>>
>>
>>[ISFA]
>>"WOULD LIKE TO HEAR COMMENTS"
>>
>>        -storm-
>>
>

Think about the fact that the order to kill all male babies 2 years and
younger would indicate how long it had been since the birth of Jesus until
the arrival of the caravan.  These men thought that if they could
understand the signs in the sky to mean that some important event had
occurred then the locals would see it also.  That's why they went to the
local leader, and that is why this leader picked a time frame from which to
kill the children.  The gifts left by this group provided for the support
of the family while in exile in Egypt for 11 years.

BGB#3   

Vemund Ally <vemund.ally@azlan.no> wrote in article
<36b08103.0@d2o201.telia.com>...
> Give it a rest kid, you can't even prove that you are ;
> 
> a) awake
> b) alive
> 
> Both of these states cannot be proven, only "taken for granted".
> Let me tell you about life child, some things you're gonna have to take
for
> granted.
> There, that is science for you. If you want to play hardball, play it.
> Having witnesses is not any proof, being killed is not proof either of
life.
> 
> I welcome anybody to challenge my statements (perhaps i might learn
> something).
> 
> Vemund Ally
> __________>
> 
> Gregg wrote in message <36affb97.94988197@news.thegrid.net>...
> >Finally! Absolute PROOF that aliens exist! And it was right there in
> >the Bible this whole time!!! How could we have missed it???
> >
> >On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:03:19 GMT, "storm" <storm@maqs.net> wrote:
> >
> >>cont...
> >> When they had heard the King, they went their way; and look! The Star
> they
> >>had seen in the east went ahead of them,until it came to a stop above
> where
> >>the young child was. On seeing the Star they rejoiced very much indeed.
> and
> >>when they went into the house they saw the young child with Mary its
> >>mother.
> >>
> >>           MATTHEW 2: 9,10,11
> >>
> >>
> >> Matthew records that "wisemen from the east" followed what they
thought
> >>was a Star to the place of Christ. The Bible says the wisemen followed
the
> >>Star "till it came to rest over the place where the child was. Star do
not
> >>move like this nor do they move and then suddenly stop. After the
wisemen
> >>initially saw the "Star" they had to pack up, perpare for the long
journey
> >>by camel. So there is no reason to believe that Christ would still be
in
> >>the manger by the time they arrived, and they came into the house and
saw
> >>the child with Mary his mother.
> >> This verse says they came into the "house", not stable, and saw the
> >>"child", not baby, with Mary. One of the most spectacular aspects of
the
> >>story is the "Star". The greek word for "Star" in the gospel account
can
> >>mean "any luminous Heavenly Body".
> >> "Are we not seeing LUMINOUS HEAVENLY BODIES today in our skies
> >>
> >>
> >>               to be continued
> >>
> >>
> >>[ISFA]
> >>"WOULD LIKE TO HEAR COMMENTS"
> >>
> >>        -storm-
> >>
> >
> 
> 
> 

Bruce Brown wrote:

> Think about the fact that the order to kill all male babies 2 years and
> younger would indicate how long it had been since the birth of Jesus until
> the arrival of the caravan.  These men thought that if they could
> understand the signs in the sky to mean that some important event had
> occurred then the locals would see it also.  That's why they went to the
> local leader, and that is why this leader picked a time frame from which to
> kill the children.  The gifts left by this group provided for the support
> of the family while in exile in Egypt for 11 years.

Keep in mind, also, that only one of the four gospels records Jesus going to
Egypt - this is probably an addition made by someone so that things would
match up with the Moses story better.

Also, none of the historians of the time recorded a slaughtering of Jewish
babies - even the one historian who really, *really* hated Herod.

Greg.

--
alt.atheism atheist #911, BAAWA Knight
"Mutual funds, my ass."
- G. Gyetko, Jan 27 1999
EAC Homepage:  http://www.smt.net/~nuthouse/

You have to have an open mind "Vemund". You take to much for granted you
will fall down

Vemund Ally <vemund.ally@azlan.no> wrote in article
<36b08103.0@d2o201.telia.com>...
> Give it a rest kid, you can't even prove that you are ;
> 
> a) awake
> b) alive
> 
> Both of these states cannot be proven, only "taken for granted".
> Let me tell you about life child, some things you're gonna have to take
for
> granted.
> There, that is science for you. If you want to play hardball, play it.
> Having witnesses is not any proof, being killed is not proof either of
life.
> 
> I welcome anybody to challenge my statements (perhaps i might learn
> something).
> 
> Vemund Ally
> __________>
> 
> Gregg wrote in message <36affb97.94988197@news.thegrid.net>...
> >Finally! Absolute PROOF that aliens exist! And it was right there in
> >the Bible this whole time!!! How could we have missed it???
> >
> >On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:03:19 GMT, "storm" <storm@maqs.net> wrote:
> >
> >>cont...
> >> When they had heard the King, they went their way; and look! The Star
> they
> >>had seen in the east went ahead of them,until it came to a stop above
> where
> >>the young child was. On seeing the Star they rejoiced very much indeed.
> and
> >>when they went into the house they saw the young child with Mary its
> >>mother.
> >>
> >>           MATTHEW 2: 9,10,11
> >>
> >>
> >> Matthew records that "wisemen from the east" followed what they
thought
> >>was a Star to the place of Christ. The Bible says the wisemen followed
the
> >>Star "till it came to rest over the place where the child was. Star do
not
> >>move like this nor do they move and then suddenly stop. After the
wisemen
> >>initially saw the "Star" they had to pack up, perpare for the long
journey
> >>by camel. So there is no reason to believe that Christ would still be
in
> >>the manger by the time they arrived, and they came into the house and
saw
> >>the child with Mary his mother.
> >> This verse says they came into the "house", not stable, and saw the
> >>"child", not baby, with Mary. One of the most spectacular aspects of
the
> >>story is the "Star". The greek word for "Star" in the gospel account
can
> >>mean "any luminous Heavenly Body".
> >> "Are we not seeing LUMINOUS HEAVENLY BODIES today in our skies
> >>
> >>
> >>               to be continued
> >>
> >>
> >>[ISFA]
> >>"WOULD LIKE TO HEAR COMMENTS"
> >>
> >>        -storm-
> >>
> >
> 
> 
> 

storm heeft geschreven in bericht <01be4a04$5a05b280$43132e9c@STORM>...
>cont...
> When they had heard the King, they went their way; and look! The Star they
>had seen in the east went ahead of them,until it came to a stop above where
>the young child was. On seeing the Star they rejoiced very much indeed. and
>when they went into the house they saw the young child with Mary its
>mother.
>
>           MATTHEW 2: 9,10,11
>
>
> Matthew records that "wisemen from the east" followed what they thought
>was a Star to the place of Christ. The Bible says the wisemen followed the
>Star "till it came to rest over the place where the child was. Star do not
>move like this nor do they move and then suddenly stop. After the wisemen
>initially saw the "Star" they had to pack up, perpare for the long journey
>by camel. So there is no reason to believe that Christ would still be in
>the manger by the time they arrived, and they came into the house and saw
>the child with Mary his mother.
> This verse says they came into the "house", not stable, and saw the
>"child", not baby, with Mary. One of the most spectacular aspects of the
>story is the "Star". The greek word for "Star" in the gospel account can
>mean "any luminous Heavenly Body".
> "Are we not seeing LUMINOUS HEAVENLY BODIES today in our skies
>
>
>               to be continued
>
>
>[ISFA]
>"WOULD LIKE TO HEAR COMMENTS"
>
>        -storm-
> I read somewhere that there is a possibility that the star of Betlehem
were a comet. The star did not stop but the wise men did. So it only seemed
that way. Sorry about the mistakes in my english because I am dutch. This is
just what I think but if you have a better suggestion please respond back to
me. ericblom@worldonline.nl