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Sometimes you have more than one connection possebilety mayby it's not
connected right.
What also can be is that in the options that you have from your soundcard
you have the cd disabled.
Have a look there that's the only things I can think about.
Regards Harm gerrits

well well.. let me see how far I got tonight..   I think my first problem si
my opti sound card which I am really starting to dispise!..
the sound card is set up to ignore the cdrom.  in the setup for the
soundcard it asks if you want to use the ide port on the sound card or the
motherboard.  I choose the m/b and it decided to put a command in my
config.sys file to turn my cd off.  So I spent 2 hours figuring that out and
ended up deleting my ide drivers/ cdrom and sound card and set it all up
again.  Once again the sound card decided to interfer with the config.sys
and put lines in there relating to the cdrom.  So I went and deleted all of
them and reinstalled mcexc  or what ever the hell that cd rom thing is.  Now
I have my cd back but I can't play audio cd's through ANY program.   I can
however hit the play button on the front of my cd and listen to music.  This
is only a problem with audio.  Data cd's have no trouble.
I am convinced that this is a problem with the setup files in the soundcard
although I have downloaded every f..g file relating to this sound card and
they all did the same thing..   I built this system and when I set it up the
very first time it did not ask me what ide interface I wanted to use.  That
is a new thing!  Not sure where it came from.

ok  programs I have tried ripping cds with.

audio grabber
easy da extractor 3
music match 4







hgerrits wrote in message <01bf12f6$a2180080$258a86c2@ns>...
>Sometimes you have more than one connection possebilety mayby it's not
>connected right.
>What also can be is that in the options that you have from your soundcard
>you have the cd disabled.
>Have a look there that's the only things I can think about.
>Regards Harm gerrits
>
>

OK, On your computer you have one of two configs. Either, one grey set of
wires and another small wire plugging directly into your sound card and
CD-Rom. OR The grey set goes to your mainboard. DO NOT TOUCH THE GREY SET OF
WIRES. Check the other cable. This is the only cable which has anything to
do with your problem. Is it in the right sockets (ie analog NOT digital
output on cd-rom) Hope this helps you.

cowboy <cowboyz@actrix.gen.nz> wrote in message
news:37ff0720@news.actrix.gen.nz...
> Right..  I am having trouble with the cdrom.  If I play a music cd I can
not
> hear it through the speakers.  I can however hear it if I plug a headset
> into the jack on the cd rom itself (not the jack on the soundcard)
>
> My sound works with all my games and win 95.  Has anyone got a clue what
> this could be?
>
> ps.. I have had the machine apart and the cable from the cd to the sound
> card is in tact.
>
>
> this problem has only become apparent since I am trying to make mp3.   I
> have tried several mp3 makers and I  get a read error all the time.  I am
> sure that it is because my cd rom  is not co-operating with the rest of my
> system.
>
>
> thanks in advance for any help.
>
> ps... system specs.
>
> p120
> 24 RAM
> 4x cd rom (goldstar)
> opti 16 sound card
> win 95
>
>
>
>
>
>

The opti sound cards have always been a bastard of a card to set up,
Considering the price of a new card is cheap these days I would
seriously consider binning the opti and replacing it with a new card.
"Creative" are the easiest of them all to set up and I recon the most
compatible of cards with games.
You can get a cheap sondblaster just about anywhare, If you can't get
a creative get a ess card they arn't to bad

Jim
On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:25:38 +1300, "cowboy" <cowboyz@actrix.gen.nz>
wrote:

>well well.. let me see how far I got tonight..   I think my first problem si
>my opti sound card which I am really starting to dispise!..
>the sound card is set up to ignore the cdrom.  in the setup for the
>soundcard it asks if you want to use the ide port on the sound card or the
>motherboard.  I choose the m/b and it decided to put a command in my
>config.sys file to turn my cd off.  So I spent 2 hours figuring that out and
>ended up deleting my ide drivers/ cdrom and sound card and set it all up
>again.  Once again the sound card decided to interfer with the config.sys
>and put lines in there relating to the cdrom.  So I went and deleted all of
>them and reinstalled mcexc  or what ever the hell that cd rom thing is.  Now
>I have my cd back but I can't play audio cd's through ANY program.   I can
>however hit the play button on the front of my cd and listen to music.  This
>is only a problem with audio.  Data cd's have no trouble.
>I am convinced that this is a problem with the setup files in the soundcard
>although I have downloaded every f..g file relating to this sound card and
>they all did the same thing..   I built this system and when I set it up the
>very first time it did not ask me what ide interface I wanted to use.  That
>is a new thing!  Not sure where it came from.
>
>ok  programs I have tried ripping cds with.
>
>audio grabber
>easy da extractor 3
>music match 4
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>hgerrits wrote in message <01bf12f6$a2180080$258a86c2@ns>...
>>Sometimes you have more than one connection possebilety mayby it's not
>>connected right.
>>What also can be is that in the options that you have from your soundcard
>>you have the cd disabled.
>>Have a look there that's the only things I can think about.
>>Regards Harm gerrits
>>
>>
>
>

not onto the hard drive.. it delivers a read error message no matter what
program I am using at the start of ripping a file.  however if I hit play cd
then it will play perfectly through the headphone jack.
I haven't my cdr connected yet so I don't know if I can copy direct.

I have been contacted by another person who has the same problem so I will
email him and ask him if he can. (he has the same setup as me)

joe_indoors� wrote in message <7tn1ld$gbm$1@fraggle.esatclear.ie>...
>can you rip tracks from cd's in wav format?
>
>cowboy <cowboyz@actrix.gen.nz> wrote in message
>news:37ff0720@news.actrix.gen.nz...
>> Right..  I am having trouble with the cdrom.  If I play a music cd I can
>not
>> hear it through the speakers.  I can however hear it if I plug a headset
>> into the jack on the cd rom itself (not the jack on the soundcard)
>>
>> My sound works with all my games and win 95.  Has anyone got a clue what
>> this could be?
>>
>> ps.. I have had the machine apart and the cable from the cd to the sound
>> card is in tact.
>>
>>
>> this problem has only become apparent since I am trying to make mp3.   I
>> have tried several mp3 makers and I  get a read error all the time.  I am
>> sure that it is because my cd rom  is not co-operating with the rest of
my
>> system.
>>
>>
>> thanks in advance for any help.
>>
>> ps... system specs.
>>
>> p120
>> 24 RAM
>> 4x cd rom (goldstar)
>> opti 16 sound card
>> win 95
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 21:51:04 +1300, "cowboy" <cowboyz@actrix.gen.nz>
wrote:

>Right..  I am having trouble with the cdrom.  If I play a music cd I can not
>hear it through the speakers.  I can however hear it if I plug a headset
>into the jack on the cd rom itself (not the jack on the soundcard)
>
>My sound works with all my games and win 95.  Has anyone got a clue what
>this could be?
>
>ps.. I have had the machine apart and the cable from the cd to the sound
>card is in tact.

Well it may be intact, but it seems pretty obvious that it's not
working. If you can hear the CD playing when you plug earphones into
the jack on the drive, then clearly the drive *is* playing the CD. And
that cable that connects the drive to your soundcard should be taking
the analogue audio signal and putting it directly into the analogue
part of your soundcard for output to your speakers. So... if you're
not hearing anything... well we know your drive is working, so either
the cable is not plugged in properly at both ends or is damaged, or
your soundcard is broken.

BTW, even if you can't hear CDs playing, you should still be able to
rip from CDs, so long as you are ripping digitally (i.e. using Digital
Audio Extraction), since DEA doesn't use the analogue connection
between your CD drive and your soundcard at all...

>this problem has only become apparent since I am trying to make mp3.   I
>have tried several mp3 makers and I  get a read error all the time.  I am
>sure that it is because my cd rom  is not co-operating with the rest of my
>system.

Well what program are you using to rip? Have you got it set up for
Digital Audio Extraction? If you're trying to do analogue rips, that
certainly won't work if the analogue transfer from your CD drive to
your soundcard isn't working. But a "read error" sounds more like a
*digital* extraction problem.  It's possible that your CD drive
doesn't support DAE - some older drive don't...

Xorys

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://webhome.idirect.com/~toot/
Xena Wallpapers, Win95 Startup Screens etc.

i agree.  i have given up on the opti

Jim wrote in message <38012632.810056@news.modnet.com.au>...
>The opti sound cards have always been a bastard of a card to set up,
>Considering the price of a new card is cheap these days I would
>seriously consider binning the opti and replacing it with a new card.
>"Creative" are the easiest of them all to set up and I recon the most
>compatible of cards with games.
>You can get a cheap sondblaster just about anywhare, If you can't get
>a creative get a ess card they arn't to bad
>
>Jim
>On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:25:38 +1300, "cowboy" <cowboyz@actrix.gen.nz>
>wrote:
>
>>well well.. let me see how far I got tonight..   I think my first problem
si
>>my opti sound card which I am really starting to dispise!..
>>the sound card is set up to ignore the cdrom.  in the setup for the
>>soundcard it asks if you want to use the ide port on the sound card or the
>>motherboard.  I choose the m/b and it decided to put a command in my
>>config.sys file to turn my cd off.  So I spent 2 hours figuring that out
and
>>ended up deleting my ide drivers/ cdrom and sound card and set it all up
>>again.  Once again the sound card decided to interfer with the config.sys
>>and put lines in there relating to the cdrom.  So I went and deleted all
of
>>them and reinstalled mcexc  or what ever the hell that cd rom thing is.
Now
>>I have my cd back but I can't play audio cd's through ANY program.   I can
>>however hit the play button on the front of my cd and listen to music.
This
>>is only a problem with audio.  Data cd's have no trouble.
>>I am convinced that this is a problem with the setup files in the
soundcard
>>although I have downloaded every f..g file relating to this sound card and
>>they all did the same thing..   I built this system and when I set it up
the
>>very first time it did not ask me what ide interface I wanted to use.
That
>>is a new thing!  Not sure where it came from.
>>
>>ok  programs I have tried ripping cds with.
>>
>>audio grabber
>>easy da extractor 3
>>music match 4
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>hgerrits wrote in message <01bf12f6$a2180080$258a86c2@ns>...
>>>Sometimes you have more than one connection possebilety mayby it's not
>>>connected right.
>>>What also can be is that in the options that you have from your soundcard
>>>you have the cd disabled.
>>>Have a look there that's the only things I can think about.
>>>Regards Harm gerrits
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:25:38 +1300, "cowboy" <cowboyz@actrix.gen.nz>
wrote:

>well well.. let me see how far I got tonight..   I think my first problem si
>my opti sound card which I am really starting to dispise!..
>the sound card is set up to ignore the cdrom.  in the setup for the
>soundcard it asks if you want to use the ide port on the sound card or the
>motherboard.  I choose the m/b and it decided to put a command in my
>config.sys file to turn my cd off.  So I spent 2 hours figuring that out and
>ended up deleting my ide drivers/ cdrom and sound card and set it all up
>again.  Once again the sound card decided to interfer with the config.sys
>and put lines in there relating to the cdrom.  So I went and deleted all of
>them and reinstalled mcexc  or what ever the hell that cd rom thing is.  Now
>I have my cd back but I can't play audio cd's through ANY program.   I can
>however hit the play button on the front of my cd and listen to music.  This
>is only a problem with audio.  Data cd's have no trouble.
>I am convinced that this is a problem with the setup files in the soundcard
>although I have downloaded every f..g file relating to this sound card and
>they all did the same thing..   I built this system and when I set it up the
>very first time it did not ask me what ide interface I wanted to use.  That
>is a new thing!  Not sure where it came from.
>
>ok  programs I have tried ripping cds with.
>
>audio grabber
>easy da extractor 3
>music match 4

Actually I have an OPTI sound card on this machine (my older machine,
which is a Pentium 120) and it seems to work fine.

Firstly the IDE setting has *nothing* to do with the audio output -
it's asking you whether you want to enable the IDE connection on the
sound card - this is essentially a disk controller connection, a data
connection for a CD ROM (not the analogue audio connection). Where
does the big flat ribbon cable from your CD ROM drive connect to? (The
one that's about 1 1/2 - 2 inches across, usually pale grey or pale
blue, with a red line down one side...) If that cable connects to the
soundcard, *then* you want to enable the IDE interface on the
soundcard, otherwise don't. Again, this has *nothing* to do with
playing CD audio through the sound card! There is another cable that
comes out of the CD drive, a thin little cable, just two or three
strands of wire, a millimetre or so thick, with a small rectangular
connector a little over 1/4 inch across on the end - *that* is the
analogue audio connector, and it should always be connected to your
soundcard - there should be a place, normally on the corner of the
card, where three square pins stick up, and that analogue audio
connector plugs onto them... usually it will say something like "audio
in" beside it.

Xorys

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://webhome.idirect.com/~toot/
Xena Wallpapers, Win95 Startup Screens etc.

the hd is conencted directly to the m/b ..   now for some creative reason I
can't even play a cd through win 95.  I can however hit the play button on
my cd and listen to music that way (but not through the sound card) .. When
I have some time I might try deleting the whole lot and reinstalling win95
as last night my computer decided to reset itself several times and restart
in safe mode.  seems to be running fine this morning but it is not feeling
too happy.!

Xorys wrote in message <3805bf6c.18592015@beta-news.direct.ca>...
>On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:25:38 +1300, "cowboy" <cowboyz@actrix.gen.nz>
>wrote:
>
>>well well.. let me see how far I got tonight..   I think my first problem
si
>>my opti sound card which I am really starting to dispise!..
>>the sound card is set up to ignore the cdrom.  in the setup for the
>>soundcard it asks if you want to use the ide port on the sound card or the
>>motherboard.  I choose the m/b and it decided to put a command in my
>>config.sys file to turn my cd off.  So I spent 2 hours figuring that out
and
>>ended up deleting my ide drivers/ cdrom and sound card and set it all up
>>again.  Once again the sound card decided to interfer with the config.sys
>>and put lines in there relating to the cdrom.  So I went and deleted all
of
>>them and reinstalled mcexc  or what ever the hell that cd rom thing is.
Now
>>I have my cd back but I can't play audio cd's through ANY program.   I can
>>however hit the play button on the front of my cd and listen to music.
This
>>is only a problem with audio.  Data cd's have no trouble.
>>I am convinced that this is a problem with the setup files in the
soundcard
>>although I have downloaded every f..g file relating to this sound card and
>>they all did the same thing..   I built this system and when I set it up
the
>>very first time it did not ask me what ide interface I wanted to use.
That
>>is a new thing!  Not sure where it came from.
>>
>>ok  programs I have tried ripping cds with.
>>
>>audio grabber
>>easy da extractor 3
>>music match 4
>
>Actually I have an OPTI sound card on this machine (my older machine,
>which is a Pentium 120) and it seems to work fine.
>
>Firstly the IDE setting has *nothing* to do with the audio output -
>it's asking you whether you want to enable the IDE connection on the
>sound card - this is essentially a disk controller connection, a data
>connection for a CD ROM (not the analogue audio connection). Where
>does the big flat ribbon cable from your CD ROM drive connect to? (The
>one that's about 1 1/2 - 2 inches across, usually pale grey or pale
>blue, with a red line down one side...) If that cable connects to the
>soundcard, *then* you want to enable the IDE interface on the
>soundcard, otherwise don't. Again, this has *nothing* to do with
>playing CD audio through the sound card! There is another cable that
>comes out of the CD drive, a thin little cable, just two or three
>strands of wire, a millimetre or so thick, with a small rectangular
>connector a little over 1/4 inch across on the end - *that* is the
>analogue audio connector, and it should always be connected to your
>soundcard - there should be a place, normally on the corner of the
>card, where three square pins stick up, and that analogue audio
>connector plugs onto them... usually it will say something like "audio
>in" beside it.
>
>Xorys
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>http://webhome.idirect.com/~toot/
>Xena Wallpapers, Win95 Startup Screens etc.

On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:12:03 +1300, "cowboy" <cowboyz@actrix.gen.nz>
wrote:

>the hd is conencted directly to the m/b ..   now for some creative reason I
>can't even play a cd through win 95.  I can however hit the play button on
>my cd and listen to music that way (but not through the sound card) .. When
>I have some time I might try deleting the whole lot and reinstalling win95
>as last night my computer decided to reset itself several times and restart
>in safe mode.  seems to be running fine this morning but it is not feeling
>too happy.!

Ouch! It sounds as if you've got things rather messed up.

Actually I wasn't asking if the har disk was connected to the mother
board... I was asking if the CD ROM ribbon cable was connected to the
sound card or not. If the CD ROM ribbon cable is connected to the
sound card, then you definitely need to enable the sound card IDE
connection in order to use the CD ROM drive. On the other hand, if the
CD ROM drive ribbon cable is *not* connected to the sound card, you
should disable the IDE connection on the sound card. In any case, the
thin audio cable from the CD ROM drive should always be connected to
the sound card.

In your position, I'd be sort of tempted to try "removing" the CD ROM
drive from within Windows, and maybe even "removing" the sound card
too, if you're not sure it's driver are installed properly. Then shut
down the machine, open up the case, and make sure the sound card and
CD ROM drive are connected properly, and than any jumpers on the sound
card are set properly. Then when you boot up the machine again,
hopefully Windows will recognise the sound card and CR ROM as "new
hardware". Unfortunately, there's a potential for a Catch-22 situation
here, since Windows may want to access the Windows CD to load files
associated with "new hardware", and if you don't have a working CD ROM
drive, how do you give Windows the CD? If you have another machine
available, you sometimes get around this problem by figuring out which
file Windows wants, and the extracting it from the CD manually on the
other machine, and transferring it on a floppy disk.

As you say, reinstalling Windows from scratch will probably fix the
problem as well, so long as you have things connected right when you
do the reinstall. But then that takes a while, and often cause
unpleasant side effects...

Good luck!

Xorys

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://webhome.idirect.com/~toot/
Xena Wallpapers, Win95 Startup Screens etc.

 I meant to say cd not hd.  sorry...  now however i have my cdr on ide2 and
i WAS going to put the cdrom in with it but I have no power connectors
left??!!!  BUMMER>>  SO will have to wait till tomorrow before it gets
fixed.   The cdr can create mp3 without the analog cable so I have given up
on trying to fix this cd.
Xorys wrote in message <3804cefa.17030876@beta-news.direct.ca>...
>On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:12:03 +1300, "cowboy" <cowboyz@actrix.gen.nz>
>wrote:
>
>>the hd is conencted directly to the m/b ..   now for some creative reason
I
>>can't even play a cd through win 95.  I can however hit the play button on
>>my cd and listen to music that way (but not through the sound card) ..
When
>>I have some time I might try deleting the whole lot and reinstalling win95
>>as last night my computer decided to reset itself several times and
restart
>>in safe mode.  seems to be running fine this morning but it is not feeling
>>too happy.!
>
>Ouch! It sounds as if you've got things rather messed up.
>
>Actually I wasn't asking if the har disk was connected to the mother
>board... I was asking if the CD ROM ribbon cable was connected to the
>sound card or not. If the CD ROM ribbon cable is connected to the
>sound card, then you definitely need to enable the sound card IDE
>connection in order to use the CD ROM drive. On the other hand, if the
>CD ROM drive ribbon cable is *not* connected to the sound card, you
>should disable the IDE connection on the sound card. In any case, the
>thin audio cable from the CD ROM drive should always be connected to
>the sound card.
>
>In your position, I'd be sort of tempted to try "removing" the CD ROM
>drive from within Windows, and maybe even "removing" the sound card
>too, if you're not sure it's driver are installed properly. Then shut
>down the machine, open up the case, and make sure the sound card and
>CD ROM drive are connected properly, and than any jumpers on the sound
>card are set properly. Then when you boot up the machine again,
>hopefully Windows will recognise the sound card and CR ROM as "new
>hardware". Unfortunately, there's a potential for a Catch-22 situation
>here, since Windows may want to access the Windows CD to load files
>associated with "new hardware", and if you don't have a working CD ROM
>drive, how do you give Windows the CD? If you have another machine
>available, you sometimes get around this problem by figuring out which
>file Windows wants, and the extracting it from the CD manually on the
>other machine, and transferring it on a floppy disk.
>
>As you say, reinstalling Windows from scratch will probably fix the
>problem as well, so long as you have things connected right when you
>do the reinstall. But then that takes a while, and often cause
>unpleasant side effects...
>
>Good luck!
>
>Xorys
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>http://webhome.idirect.com/~toot/
>Xena Wallpapers, Win95 Startup Screens etc.

On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 22:25:38 +1300, "cowboy" <cowboyz@actrix.gen.nz>
wrote:
It really sounds to me like you have a problem with your audio only
cable from your CDRom drive to your sound card. [not the 40 pin IDE
plug, but the small 3 or 4 wire cable]

I had a similar problem, and found that one of the connector pins on
that cable had come loose in the plastic plug, and wasn't connecting.

Worth checking twice...good luck