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18 total messages Started by bearclaw Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:09
Now we know where oil company profits go?
#426
Author: bearclaw
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:09
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Luxury super-yacht industry booming! Baby yachts (under 30 meters)? 
Pathetic. Can't give 'em away. 

But grownup yachts (60+ meters)? Now, _there's_ a boat! Luxury super 
yacht builders around the world report huge demand for their products, 
Britain, Spain, Italy, Turkey (not the U.S., though).

Leading yacht insurer estimates that the market for boats bigger than 
twenty meters has grown from about 800 in 1990 to *30,000* today.

Whee! We're in the money!

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&story
ID=2006-09-15T134452Z_01_ANT520654_RTRUKOC_0_US-LUXURY-YACHTS.xml&pageNum
ber=1&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage1

or

http://tinyurl.com/pvx2d

Also see:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06257/721814-28.stm
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#427
Author: Bert Hyman
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:11
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bearclaw@cruller.invalid () wrote in news:bearclaw-CEC938.11093515092006
@news.supernews.com:

> Whee! We're in the money!

So? 

It's not your money; why would you care how it's spent?

-- 
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#428
Author: bearclaw
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:16
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In article <Xns983F71D917A9CVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>,
 Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

> bearclaw@cruller.invalid () wrote in news:bearclaw-CEC938.11093515092006
> @news.supernews.com:
> 
> > Whee! We're in the money!
> 
> So? 
> 
> It's not your money; why would you care how it's spent?

Well, it sure ain't my money anymore! Whee!
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#429
Author: Bert Hyman
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:20
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bearclaw@cruller.invalid () wrote in
news:bearclaw-444567.11165915092006@news.supernews.com: 

> In article <Xns983F71D917A9CVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>,
>  Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
> 
>> bearclaw@cruller.invalid () wrote in
>> news:bearclaw-CEC938.11093515092006 @news.supernews.com:
>> 
>> > Whee! We're in the money!
>> 
>> So? 
>> 
>> It's not your money; why would you care how it's spent?
> 
> Well, it sure ain't my money anymore! 

Sounds like you don't agree with your own decisions about how you
spend your money. 

Maybe you should think about that.

> Whee!

Yeah.

-- 
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#431
Author: bearclaw
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:15
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In article <Xns983F736FF695CVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>,
 Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

> Sounds like you don't agree with your own decisions about how you
> spend your money. 

What an interesting notion. Care to share how you arrived at it?
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#433
Author: timeOday
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:17
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Bert Hyman wrote:
> bearclaw@cruller.invalid () wrote in news:bearclaw-CEC938.11093515092006
> @news.supernews.com:
> 
> 
>>Whee! We're in the money!
> 
> 
> So? 
> 
> It's not your money; why would you care how it's spent?
> 

Oil executives don't have a god-given right to profit from natural 
resources while everybody else pays through the nose.  They don't "make" 
oil, they just pump it from the ground.
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#434
Author: Bert Hyman
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:25
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timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net (timeOday) wrote in
news:8-ydnXlFmYikYZfYnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com: 

> Bert Hyman wrote:
>> bearclaw@cruller.invalid () wrote in
>> news:bearclaw-CEC938.11093515092006 @news.supernews.com:
>> 
>> 
>>>Whee! We're in the money!
>> 
>> 
>> So? 
>> 
>> It's not your money; why would you care how it's spent?
>> 
> 
> Oil executives don't have a god-given right to profit from natural 
> resources while everybody else pays through the nose.  They don't
> "make" oil, they just pump it from the ground.

Then presumably, you could do the same.

The exploration, drilling, pumping, pipelines, tankers and storage
facilities are all free for the taking, so go for it. 

-- 
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#435
Author: timeOday
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 21:09
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Bert Hyman wrote:
> timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net (timeOday) wrote in
> news:8-ydnXlFmYikYZfYnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com: 
> 
> 
>>Bert Hyman wrote:
>>
>>>bearclaw@cruller.invalid () wrote in
>>>news:bearclaw-CEC938.11093515092006 @news.supernews.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Whee! We're in the money!
>>>
>>>
>>>So? 
>>>
>>>It's not your money; why would you care how it's spent?
>>>
>>
>>Oil executives don't have a god-given right to profit from natural 
>>resources while everybody else pays through the nose.  They don't
>>"make" oil, they just pump it from the ground.
> 
> 
> Then presumably, you could do the same.
> 
> The exploration, drilling, pumping, pipelines, tankers and storage
> facilities are all free for the taking, so go for it. 
> 

Obviously I should have born into an oil dynasty.  Nice work if you can 
get it.
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#437
Author: Bert Hyman
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:07
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In news:iPOdnbrvid4ei5bYnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com timeOday
<timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote: 

> Bert Hyman wrote:
>> timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net (timeOday) wrote in
>> news:8-ydnXlFmYikYZfYnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com: 
>> 
>> 
>>>Bert Hyman wrote:
>>>
>>>>bearclaw@cruller.invalid () wrote in
>>>>news:bearclaw-CEC938.11093515092006 @news.supernews.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Whee! We're in the money!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So? 
>>>>
>>>>It's not your money; why would you care how it's spent?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Oil executives don't have a god-given right to profit from natural 
>>>resources while everybody else pays through the nose.  They don't
>>>"make" oil, they just pump it from the ground.
>> 
>> 
>> Then presumably, you could do the same.
>> 
>> The exploration, drilling, pumping, pipelines, tankers and storage
>> facilities are all free for the taking, so go for it. 
>> 
> 
> Obviously I should have born into an oil dynasty.  Nice work if you
> can get it.

And of course, those "oil dynasties" have existed since the creation of
the universe and a lucky few stumbled across them and picked them up
before you got there. 

Too bad.

Maybe you can find an unclaimed "cantaloupe dynasty" or something.

It certainly beats trying to invent an entire industry from scratch,
doesn't it? 

-- 
Bert Hyman	St. Paul, MN	bert@iphouse.com
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#439
Author: Larry Bud
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:45
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bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
> In article <Xns983F736FF695CVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>,
>  Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like you don't agree with your own decisions about how you
> > spend your money.
>
> What an interesting notion. Care to share how you arrived at it?

You can't figure it out?  You admit to spending money and giving it to
oil companies, then bitch that they make a profit.
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#440
Author: Larry Bud
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 23:46
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timeOday wrote:
> Bert Hyman wrote:
> > bearclaw@cruller.invalid () wrote in news:bearclaw-CEC938.11093515092006
> > @news.supernews.com:
> >
> >
> >>Whee! We're in the money!
> >
> >
> > So?
> >
> > It's not your money; why would you care how it's spent?
> >
>
> Oil executives don't have a god-given right to profit from natural
> resources while everybody else pays through the nose.  They don't "make"
> oil, they just pump it from the ground.

Nobody "makes" gold either, but it takes resources to get it from the
ground.

If it's so easy, feel free to start your own oil company.
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#441
Author: Sev
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:05
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Not sure what the oil companies in particular have to do with it,
though they certainly make out fueling these things- they burn a lot of
fuel.
Of course in this country Bush's tax cuts have fueled this kind of
thing- all part of the War on Terror; yachtsmen keeping an eye on the
world's waterways, etc.
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#442
Author: Anthony Matonak
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:44
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Larry Bud wrote:
> bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
>> Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Sounds like you don't agree with your own decisions about how you
>>>spend your money.
>>
>>What an interesting notion. Care to share how you arrived at it?
> 
> You can't figure it out?  You admit to spending money and giving it to
> oil companies, then bitch that they make a profit.

Perhaps the thinking goes along these lines...

They must commute to work and there is no viable public transit.
(Viable public transit dismantled by oil & auto companies.)

They must buy from the oil companies because there are no alternatives
available to fuel their personal vehicle.
(Electric vehicles taken out of hands of leaseholders and then crushed.)

They observe that the oil companies manipulate prices and reap
staggeringly huge profits in the process.

They observe that the oil companies use these staggering profits
to pay staggering amounts of money to a small handful of people
who run the companies.

They then complain about getting screwed while the CEO's laugh
themselves into a coma on a yacht trip to an off-shore bank.

It's like admitting to paying 'protection' money and then complaining
when they burn down your place of business and break your legs anyhow.

Anthony
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#443
Author: bearclaw
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 01:12
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In article <iLOdnQUPjNBl1ZbYnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
 Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.comcast.net> wrote:

> Larry Bud wrote:
> > bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
> >> Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Sounds like you don't agree with your own decisions about how you
> >>>spend your money.
> >>
> >>What an interesting notion. Care to share how you arrived at it?
> > 
> > You can't figure it out?  You admit to spending money and giving it to
> > oil companies, then bitch that they make a profit.
> 
> Perhaps the thinking goes along these lines...
> 
> They must commute to work and there is no viable public transit.
> (Viable public transit dismantled by oil & auto companies.)
> 
> They must buy from the oil companies because there are no alternatives
> available to fuel their personal vehicle.
> (Electric vehicles taken out of hands of leaseholders and then crushed.)
> 
> They observe that the oil companies manipulate prices and reap
> staggeringly huge profits in the process.
> 
> They observe that the oil companies use these staggering profits
> to pay staggering amounts of money to a small handful of people
> who run the companies.
> 
> They then complain about getting screwed while the CEO's laugh
> themselves into a coma on a yacht trip to an off-shore bank.
> 
> It's like admitting to paying 'protection' money and then complaining
> when they burn down your place of business and break your legs anyhow.
> 
> Anthony

Wow, that whole Larry Bud response never showed up on Supernews servers.

I thought maybe I had killfiled him (he's definitely in contention with 
Rod Speed for killworthy articles), but no, there is  no such filter 
here. Maybe he cancelled his article, but not before you caught it.

Anyway if I *had* seen the response, I would have noted that I certainly 
never complained or bitched or whined in my original article. I never 
even complained about spending money for gas. It just looked like 
"connect-the-dots" to me. Record oil company profits followed a few 
months later by a massive boom in luxury yacht sales. Nah, it couldn't 
be.

I just posted about the boom in giant luxury yachts and postulated maybe 
*that* might be where the record profits collected by oil companies over 
the last year might have gone. What's so bad about that?

Seems to me that ol' Bert and Larry are just a mite bit sensitive to the 
whole subject. OTOH, It's always highly entertaining watching parasites 
fight to defend their host. 

Now, me, see, I LOVE the oil companies. I have the privilege of having 
my nose so far up oil company executives' rectums that I could be a 
Republican assemblyman. Any further with the nose, and they might choke. 
I love the smell of crude in the morning. Hell, I hope they buy a yacht 
the size of the Exxon Valdez and hire a drunk to pilot it around New 
York Harbor.

I say, MORE public money for roads, industry and infrastructure that 
promotes oil use! It's the free market, I say! Whisper the word, 
"subsidy" and prove you are a pinko fag commie.

What's good for BP is good for Alaska!

God Bless America.
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#445
Author: millia
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 04:28
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amde@aol.com wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:44:17 -0700, in misc.consumers.frugal-living Anthony
> Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >They observe that the oil companies manipulate prices and reap
> >staggeringly huge profits in the process.
>
>
> They sure are manipulating them now, and just in time for the elections.  Is it
> Chevron that condi is on loan from?  At any rate the republicans own the oil
> companies..

I've been too chicken to ask this question:  what came first, the oil
companies or the republicans?
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#447
Author: nicksanspam
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 07:24
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<bearclaw@cruller.invalid> wrote:

>... I LOVE the oil companies. I have the privilege of having 
>my nose so far up oil company executives' rectums that I could be a 
>Republican assemblyman. Any further with the nose, and they might choke. 

Reminds me of the Kliban cartoon "Business on parade" (a ring of men
on their hands and knees in 3 piece suits.)

Nick
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#448
Author: Todd Copeland
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:12
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"timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
news:8-ydnXlFmYikYZfYnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Oil executives don't have a god-given right to profit from natural
> resources while everybody else pays through the nose.  They don't "make"
> oil, they just pump it from the ground.

Voted dumbest post in this thread!

No one "makes" anything on Earth if you really want to break it down. No one
"created" the food you're eating either.

You want free gasoline, get it your lf if it's so easy.

"Just pump it from the ground"... shows how simplistic your mind is.
Re: Now we know where oil company profits go?
#449
Author: Bert Hyman
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:22
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In news:iLOdnQUPjNBl1ZbYnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com Anthony Matonak
<anthonym40@nothing.like.comcast.net> wrote: 

> They must commute to work and there is no viable public transit.
> (Viable public transit dismantled by oil & auto companies.)

How's that?

In most places, so-called "public transit" is a coercive government
monopoly. 

Of course, when you demand that corrupt politicians be placed in charge
of such important functions, don't be surprised to wake up one day and
find that corrupt politicians are in charge of such important functions.

-- 
Bert Hyman	St. Paul, MN	bert@iphouse.com
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