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Gregory Greenman <morbius@home.com> wrote:

>codeman wrote:

>> How about each state, providence, county, etc.  be responsible for their
>> very own power generation, cleanup, and disposal of whatever waste is
>> generated!!   They couldn't sell, trasfer, transport, whatever power across
>> state lines.
>>
>> Each state must provide their own fuel and plant as well.  If the state has
>> coal, then they may want to consider burning it and dealing with the ash.
>> If the state is lucky enough to have sufficient hydro capacity, then they
>> can build a dam and install turbines.  If a particular state has no natural
>> resources, then they may want to install a nuclear power plant or do
>> without.  Of course all states have the option of renewable energy
>> techniques.  Oh by the way,  no averaging cost across state lines.  If a
>> person lived  where it was expensive (PV/wind/nuclear) to generate
>> electricity because of the limited choices of fuels, then the good citizens
>> would have to bear the full cost themselves.   This would make it
>> interesting, wouldn't it?

>codeman,

>   Why stop with just electricity?  Perhaps ALL states should be
>self sufficient in ALL their needs.

>    Let's outlaw the shipment of food across state lines - all states
>should be required to grow their own food for their own population.

>All states should be self sufficient in their water supplies.  The
>residents of the state can use only the water that rains on that
>state - and can be stored in the lakes of that state.

>Each state should produce its own automobiles, and appliances,
>and all consumer goods.  There should be no transportation of
>anything but people across state borders.

>Perhaps the people should be required to carry travel papers if
>they want to cross state borders.

>Sure would be one Hell of a country.... it would really take the
>"United" out of the "United States of America".

>What a parochial attitude.

>Dr. Gregory Greenman
>Physicist


The discussion is turning toward governing: citizens and states
concerns. The federal government forced nuclear power on everyone by
threatening to build nuclear plants within the TVA. Since utilities
wanted the profits (previously very reluctant top build N-plants) they
finally decided they did not want to compete with the government and
capitulated. No citizen had a vote in the matter. Now utilites are
already being bailed out to the tune of $100 billion - mostly being
nuclear plants.

Asking citizens to solve the problem created by an industry that
"built the house without an outhouse" is of course going to cause
disent and anger. Don't tell us we need to live with the waste problem
and help you all solve it. We never wanted it. We never voted on it.
And you all lied about it repeatedly. If you were required to have
solutions for the waste problem before creating all of it, you'd still
be scratching your hairy asses.

Claiming that citizens have uncalled-for bad attitutes is like saying
we took your money, continue to take your money, hand us a bag of shit
and then ask why we are upset.
 
You still have nuts on here saying the waste problem ios solved and a
simple matter. Where is your criticism of that bullshit? Your attitude
is la la land. Stop feeding the public bullshit.