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6 total messages Started by sameer Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:56
Can Intuition be taught/enhanced
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Author: sameer
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:56
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Hi,
I wanted to get your opinions on how should one go about enhancing 
intuition or "hunches". How does one charecterize hunches from 
random thoughts. Where does "gut feel" come from. Can hypnosis be
used to enhance these feelings.
Thanks,
Sameer..

P.S. Based on what I see in the NLP flame war, I categorically state
that this is a serious, information collection question. Please e-mail.
If there is demand then I will post a summary.
Re: Can Intuition be taught/enhanced
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Author: Carol Anne Ogdin
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:50
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In <1992Dec21.205603.13725@atlastele.com> sameer@atlastele.com () writes:

>I wanted to get your opinions on how should one go about enhancing 
>intuition or "hunches". How does one charecterize hunches from 
>random thoughts. Where does "gut feel" come from. Can hypnosis be
>used to enhance these feelings.

That is a quite legitimate use of hypnosis (or NLP, for that matter).
However, it is "custom" to each individual; it depends on your own
particular strategy for *having* intuition or hunches.

I once worked for a Venture Capitalist as a consultant, and he
started describing the unique feeling he got in his stomach when he
evaluated deals that were "good" versus the feeling he got that was
different when the deal was "bad."  We then went back in his history
(actually, we did this sitting in the lobby of a hotel outside
La Guardia airport!) and he recalled the feelings he had before he
invested in deals that produced a profit versus the feels he had
before he invested in deals that did *not* produce a profit.  He
now relies on those two feelings to make investements and has claimed
(to me) that his success rate in long-term investments has improved.

You might also wish to investigate a different, but also fruitful
process used by Russell Targ and associates at SRI to make (practice)
investments in commodities markets using his methods of "remote view-
ing."  (It's not hypnosis, but I found it interesting anyway.)
-- 
--Friday                                    "Knowledge is guesswork
   Carol Anne Ogdin, Principal Designer         disciplined by 
   Deep Woods Technology                        rational criticism." 
     friday@netcom.com                                 --Karl Popper
Re: Can Intuition be taught/enhanced
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Author: Lorenzo Farris
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:27
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In article <1992Dec21.205603.13725@atlastele.com>, sameer@atlastele.com writes:
:Hi,
:I wanted to get your opinions on how should one go about enhancing 
:intuition or "hunches". How does one charecterize hunches from 
:random thoughts. Where does "gut feel" come from. Can hypnosis be
:used to enhance these feelings.
:Thanks,
:Sameer..

There are many, many approaches to this. I will suggest the simplest
way I can think of to do this.

When you have a decision to make, ask yourself how you would feel
later on for each of the choices. If you are quiet and attentive, you
will get a feeling for it. For me that feeling usually centers around
the area of my navel.

The most important thing is to practice and pay attention. It is the
sort of thing where I can tell you what to do, but I'm not really
telling you anything, because I can't give you the experience. 

At first, you will probably be wrong a lot of the time, so don't base
very important decisions on this alone, until you develop more
confidence, and learn to distinguish between real intuitions and
wishful thinking.

Hypnosis could help by quieting the mind down so that it is easier to
listen to this feeling.

Hope this helps.
			-Lorenzo
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Happiness is just a                     ******************************
remembrance away.                       *  Lorenzo Farris            *
                                        *  farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu *
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Re: Can Intuition be taught/enhanced
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Author: James J. Lippard
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:44
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In article <1992Dec22.025033.21523@netcom.com>, friday@netcom.com (Carol Anne Ogdin) writes...
>You might also wish to investigate a different, but also fruitful
>process used by Russell Targ and associates at SRI to make (practice)
>investments in commodities markets using his methods of "remote view-
>ing."  (It's not hypnosis, but I found it interesting anyway.)

I believe this wasn't actually done at SRI, but at a company called
Delphi Associates.  The principal psychic involved was Keith Harary,
and I believe that today he has quite different feelings about the
whole thing than Targ.  I question how "fruitful" the company was.

Jim Lippard              Lippard@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Dept. of Philosophy      Lippard@ARIZVMS.BITNET
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721
Re: Can Intuition be taught/enhanced
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Author: Carol Anne Ogdin
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:38
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In <22DEC199211440851@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard) writes:

>In article <1992Dec22.025033.21523@netcom.com>, friday@netcom.com (Carol Anne Ogdin) writes...
>>You might also wish to investigate a different, but also fruitful
>>process used by Russell Targ and associates at SRI to make (practice)
>>investments in commodities markets using his methods of "remote view-
>>ing."  (It's not hypnosis, but I found it interesting anyway.)

>I believe this wasn't actually done at SRI, but at a company called
>Delphi Associates.  The principal psychic involved was Keith Harary,
>and I believe that today he has quite different feelings about the
>whole thing than Targ.  I question how "fruitful" the company was.

Interesting perspective, Jim.  Is there anywhere reported where
Keith describes how his feelings differ today?

I don't know any more than what I've seen.  I read the book, then
attended a weekend seminar on Remote Viewing with Targ and Harary, and
the results of exercises done by the students (including myself) were
certainly impressive to me.
-- 
--Friday                                    "Knowledge is guesswork
   Carol Anne Ogdin, Principal Designer         disciplined by 
   Deep Woods Technology                        rational criticism." 
     friday@netcom.com                                 --Karl Popper
Re: Can Intuition be taught/enhanced
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Author: Keith Grant
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:51
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In article <1992Dec21.205603.13725@atlastele.com>, sameer@atlastele.com writes:
|> Hi,
|> I wanted to get your opinions on how should one go about enhancing 
|> intuition or "hunches". How does one charecterize hunches from 
|> random thoughts. Where does "gut feel" come from. Can hypnosis be
|> used to enhance these feelings.
|> Thanks,

I tend to view hunches as as conclusions drawn from a combination of experience
and unconscious information in situations where the information of which I am
conciously aware is insufficient to force a single conclusion or decision.
We learn, of necessity, to not be consciously aware of much of the information
with which we are constantly bombarded.  We also learn to combine much 
information into digestible patterns.  For example, to be able to recognize
happiness or anger on someone's face without being consciously aware of the
details of facial positioning and movement.  

Hunches can come from the congruence or incongruence of an observed/subject 
person's modes of presentation.  Does the body positioning, movement, vocal 
intonation, and verbal content all say the same thing or do they contradict?  
Is the body language appropriate to the given context in the culture in which 
it's occurring?  Is the tempo appropriate or is there a sense of being forced
to a premature conclusion.  Is the person's total presentation consistent with
their past behavior or are there subtle differences.

I believe, partially from my own experience, that intuition can be enhanced
by practicing conscious awareness.  If you want to be a better communicator,
for example, pay attention to the nuances of how people around you are
communicating with each other - the movements, tempo, intonation, and
mutual pacing, and implied verbal messages the accompany the explicit verbal
communication.  With practice, you can learn to unconsciously note these so
that much more can be concsiously accessed as needed.  The other component
is to be  aware of your feelings (comfort/discomfort), give credit to the
totality of your experience, and to ask yourself what it is about that 
specific situation or person that is leading to the feeling.  With practice, 
it gets easier to obtain specific answers.

The "gut feeling" is one of the ways you unconciously communicate your
experience to your conscious mind.  Bandler and Grinder, in some of their
books, use the phrase "kinesthetic verification".  I vaguely recall that it
was in conjunction with the methodology of successful spellers being to picture
a trial spelling with "kinesthetic verification" of its correctness.  This 
also helps to weed out the spurious "random wanderings", although even those
are worth noticing.

Can hypnosis help?  I find it can be a help in enhancing my awareness of
external events instead of my internal events (what Bandler and Grinder
referred to as an "uptime trance" and Zen calls living in the moment) and 
in accessing the details behind my hunches.  My abbreviated self-induction
would go something like:

There is something about this situation that I find disquieting although I'm
not yet consciously aware of why (pacing my own experience).  I'm closing my
eyes and sinking down into a state where I can picture, hear, and feel what I 
need to become aware of (pacing and direction).  As I review what's been 
occurring, very much like watching a movie, I can become aware of details 
that I had previously overlooked - details that are important for me to be 
aware of.  I can notice and highlight what exactly it was about this situation 
that some part of me was uncomfortable with ,,, (from which point I have all 
the options of still, slow-motion, accelerated motion, or replay available on
a good VCR).

With practice, the technique can become as fast and accurate as an instant
replay for a sports event.  
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