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Article #184Re: Paranoid Lavigne
From: Thomas Scott
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 00:00
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Daniel J. Lavigne wrote:
> Snip.
Lavigne, you strike me as an intelligent person who does his research, believe
two things, at this moment I am not your enemy, and I respect your convictions, as I
would respect the convictions of any religion, political party etc. Your first answer to
my post is a sincere portrait of your personality, one I can empathize with and respect.
Your second post is another matter, one which I shall ignore save for the fact that this
post (yours included) is cross-posted to two newsgroups that deal specifically with
anonymity.
I could offer the 'world' a profile of your personality as I percieve it but will
limit myself only to the parts I consider relevant.
- you are a person who is grounded firmly in reality and therefore cannot deal with
so called internet phantoms who exist as other personalities (or anonymously). It is
this grounding that makes you want a 'name' at which you can lash out. If you want a
name, it is Thomas Scott.
- it is your ilk (I suspect) that have been the downfall of anonymous servers such
as anon.penit.fi, which I miss and from this article onwards, shall refuse to post until
such service is restored with full anonymous privileges ie, the right to refuse to
reveal users names despite a court order.
- you argue that your birth does not condemn you pay PERSONAL TAXES yet you would
argue that your birth condemns you to a NAME? We could have a lengthy debate about this
Lavigne but I have my personal vows to uphold (as mentioned in the above paragraph).
- if anonymous people perturb you, consider their writing as mere graffiti on a wall
and award it with the status that it deserves, some of it is good, some of it is bad,
most of it can be whitewashed the next day.
So much for anonymity.
Regarding your tax theory and the mutual destruction of all civilisation as we know
it, I offer the following points:
- PERSONAL TAXES may be avoided but governments would seek to impose taxes in other
ways eg. VAT, Customs and Excise, Duties, Corporate taxes, Levies etc. How would you
propose to circumvent all of these? You are not 'taxfree' as long as you pay VAT or any
other levy imposed on products such as fuel, cigarettes, liquor, etc. (VAT is another
form of Sales Tax). Your personal action may benefit you in the short term but will
impose a heavy burden on you and your neighbours in the long term ie. personal taxes are
identifiable whereas hidden taxes are not.
- I agree with Lavigne to the extent that governments ARE greedy and that I would
like nothing more than see this greed curbed if not cut off all together. I do not agree
with Lavigne in that he wants an all out nuclear devastation of this planet. This is a
wasteful view and points to the fact that Lavigne does not have children whom he would
like to have realise a full life (taxed or taxfree) as the one he had (think back to
the Spanish Inquisition and all the babies who died because they may have been led into
the Devil's temptation, this is what Lavigne is saying, deny all those who may have had
a chance to life the right to this life just in case they paid their taxes).
- I sympathize with Lavigne in that he wants to 'spread' his 'message' to the world,
all wannabe authors and 'piss pot poets' surely would like to realise such a goal. I
denounce Lavigne in the manner in which he proceeded to disseminate his 'message' ie.
spamming any and all newsgroups with so called 'attachments' to make his message
relevant to that newsgroup.
So much for the tax mumbo jumbo.
Lavigne, my organisation's name is not 'Ice Cold' for nothing, it has a purpose.
Yours sincerely
Thomas Scott.
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