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Daniel J. Lavigne <taxfree@connection.com> wrote:
> 
> Thomas Scott <tscott@northpole.com> in Message-ID:
> <35C6908C.3161@northpole.com> wrote (comment is enclosed 
> between the extended arrows):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<snip>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> 
> To: <arion@greek.poets>
> 
> I have offered, in the past, to enter an exchange of 
> posts with regard to my strongly held beliefs that you 
> were responsible for a series of malicious attacks upon 
> myself.
> 
> I shall reserve the why and how that
> strongly held suspicion arose.

<snip>

> To another point. <tscott@northpole.com> closes
> his comments thusly:
> 
> ** If you accuse those who seek anonymity of cowardice,
> you accuse all those who vote by means of secret ballot
> of the same brand of cowardice **
> 
> I do accuse all who would participate in the practice
> of "secret ballots" of being afflicted by, and subject to,
> an overwhelming and, indeed, stenchful degree of cowardice.
> 
> It is due to that very cowardice by which the bastards of
> this world have led fools to permit AND PAY FOR(!) weapons
> that mock the very meaning of all life.
> 
> ie. All should learn that they MUST stand for what they
> believe and do so openly. We can no longer afford the luxury
> of lying to each other and believing our own lies. The very
> worth and meaning of "life" should dictate that bit of reality
> and deny us any other standard.
> 
> And I continue to maintain that all who post anonymously
> do so because of their lack of backbone and will to address
> and truly consider the "meaning of life" as it applies to them
> and their feelings of inadequacy when it comes to presenting
> their own viewpoint.
> 
> If I, a person of limited formal education, can learn to
> form and focus my thoughts in order to arrive at that which
> I firmly believe is to the constructive well being of all,
> no other dare whine to me that they "must" remain anonymous.
> 
> Indeed, when they understand the limitations and burdens
> that cowardice and the desire to speak from the shadows
> places upon them, they shall change their views and grow
> into adulthood.
> 
> Meanwhile, all others suffer their empty and meaningless
> rhetoric to no good individual or societal purpose.
> 
> I should need but to point out the openess of my campaign
> against societal insanity and the bastards and bureaucrats
> who would do, and have done, their best to mock all effort
> that is directed towards the waking of society.
> 
> If I, one who quite willingly stands alone and publicly
> confronts any and all with regard to my views, wherever
> the exchange of such views must take place, 

HAVE OPENLY TACKLED THE COWARDLY BASTARDS WHO WERE MORE 
THAN WILLING TO USE THE POWER OF THE STATE TO ATTEMPT TO 
SILENCE MY INSISTENCE THAT ALL MUST DEVELOP SPINE 
SUFFICIENT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF THE DAY, 

> the argument for anonymity goes flying out the nearest 
> window with the piss pot in which it first floated. 
> I thank you.

It seems as if I failed to complete the first sentence 
in the paragraph above. The inclusion, in CAPS after the 
comma following the word "place" represents the inadvertent 
ommission.

Note that attempts to deliver cc's to the two "concerned"
parties failed. Such should be considered an indication 
that anonymity has its costs.

ie. "Thomas Scott" could have received an immediate reply to 
his very first posting under that name, if he would but have 
shed the cowardice that leads him to plead that all should 
graciously accept the need of cowards to post anonymously.

Now, dearest little Tommy, who is "paranoid"; the party 
that dares not use its true name, or he who tells all, 
including cowards and the truly paranoid, where they can 
go with their little red wagons and crayons? Go away! Shoo!  
Scat! .  .  . And tell your mother to change your diaper!

As always,
 
taxfree
--
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 as meat for the markets, they simply follow."
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Daniel J. Lavigne wrote:
> Snip.

Lavigne, you strike me as an intelligent person who does his research, believe 
two things, at this moment I am not your enemy, and I respect your convictions, as I 
would respect the convictions of any religion, political party etc. Your first answer to 
my post is a sincere portrait of your personality, one I can empathize with and respect. 
Your second post is another matter, one which I shall ignore save for the fact that this 
post (yours included) is cross-posted to two newsgroups that deal specifically with 
anonymity.
    I could offer the 'world' a profile of your personality as I percieve it but will 
limit myself only to the parts I consider relevant.
    - you are a person who is grounded firmly in reality and therefore cannot deal with 
so called internet phantoms who exist as other personalities (or anonymously). It is 
this grounding that makes you want a 'name' at which you can lash out. If you want a 
name, it is Thomas Scott.
    - it is your ilk (I suspect) that have been the downfall of anonymous servers such 
as anon.penit.fi, which I miss and from this article onwards, shall refuse to post until 
such service is restored with full anonymous privileges ie, the right to refuse to 
reveal users names despite a court order.
    - you argue that your birth does not condemn you pay PERSONAL TAXES yet you would 
argue that your birth condemns you to a NAME? We could have a lengthy debate about this 
Lavigne but I have my personal vows to uphold (as mentioned in the above paragraph).
    - if anonymous people perturb you, consider their writing as mere graffiti on a wall 
and award it with the status that it deserves, some of it is good, some of it is bad, 
most of it can be whitewashed the next day.
    So much for anonymity.
    Regarding your tax theory and the mutual destruction of all civilisation as we know 
it, I offer the following points:
    - PERSONAL TAXES may be avoided but governments would seek to impose taxes in other 
ways eg. VAT, Customs and Excise, Duties, Corporate taxes, Levies etc. How would you 
propose to circumvent all of these? You are not 'taxfree' as long as you pay VAT or any 
other levy imposed on products such as fuel, cigarettes, liquor, etc. (VAT is another 
form of Sales Tax). Your personal action may benefit you in the short term but will 
impose a heavy burden on you and your neighbours in the long term ie. personal taxes are 
identifiable whereas hidden taxes are not.
    - I agree with Lavigne to the extent that governments ARE greedy and that I would 
like nothing more than see this greed curbed if not cut off all together. I do not agree 
with Lavigne in that he wants an all out nuclear devastation of this planet. This is a 
wasteful view and points to the fact that Lavigne does not have children whom he would 
like to have realise a full life (taxed or taxfree) as the one he had (think back to 
the Spanish Inquisition and all the babies who died because they may have been led into 
the Devil's temptation, this is what Lavigne is saying, deny all those who may have had 
a chance to life the right to this life just in case they paid their taxes).
    - I sympathize with Lavigne in that he wants to 'spread' his 'message' to the world, 
all wannabe authors and 'piss pot poets' surely would like to realise such a goal. I 
denounce Lavigne in the manner in which he proceeded to disseminate his 'message' ie. 
spamming any and all newsgroups with so called 'attachments' to make his message 
relevant to that newsgroup.
     So much for the tax mumbo jumbo.
     Lavigne, my organisation's name is not 'Ice Cold' for nothing, it has a purpose.

Yours sincerely

Thomas Scott.