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Rod Speed wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> MEB wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23PpvN5nPKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23w3tGmnPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23nRz5TnPKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Ah, Microsoft runs filters here {so do many of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer points},
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your post didn't make it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here"?  This is usenet.  Microsoft can do what they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damn well please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their server, makes no difference to the majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (people who are actually using usenet, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft's dumbed down web based forums).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No here, on the master for the forum via NNTP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, even Microsoft calls it a "newsgroup" as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinct from a web based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "forum"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "master" on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No internet browser is required to access any news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, and WE did this before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sure aren't going to get the newsgroups without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either a Internet interfaced newsreader, or via direct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download FROM the Internet or its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent and some text based alternative... so your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument is without basis, its still basically the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the old style BBS recovery. Or is it you think it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just magically appears on your computer...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are so pedantic, yet you don't seem to absorb the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written word? What part of my  "No internet browser is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to access any news server" don't you understand?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about you jam your smartarse "you think it just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magically appears on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your computer..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the sun don't shine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What part of you're using an INTERNET BASED NEWSREADER
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing the SAME forum don't you understand or do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think the messages just magically appear in your reader...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My "BROWSER" is not open or ACTIVE while I am sending this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message on Usenet, you goose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> NO but your web based newsreader IS, ya duck..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You are spoiling your arguments by using the terms web and
>>>>>>>>>>> Internet interchangably.   Think Internet as being a
>>>>>>>>>>> connection of multiple networks and the WWW as being an
>>>>>>>>>>> application or protocol which runs on top of the Internet,
>>>>>>>>>>> as does SMTP, NNTP, FTP and others.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not really, the protocols used, the "what makes up the
>>>>>>>>>> Internet", which is referred to generally as the Web,
>>>>>>>>>> determines what occurs. Without them there is none, not the
>>>>>>>>>> Internet or the Web, regardless of the term used. Throw in an
>>>>>>>>>> application, and all the broadcasts, IPs, and other become a
>>>>>>>>>> usable presentation. The basic difference? The application and
>>>>>>>>>> protocol.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The issue and misunderstanding seems to be the protocols and
>>>>>>>>>> their usage, e.g., the application used to connect to the
>>>>>>>>>> Web/Internet USING a specific protocol. Regardless of the
>>>>>>>>>> method, it still remains the Web/Internet, only the
>>>>>>>>>> application and resultant protocol used changes [as do ports
>>>>>>>>>> and other aspects, but that is a different discussion]. The
>>>>>>>>>> actual stream [Internet/Web] carries multiple protocols
>>>>>>>>>> within it; it is the application [and whatever local and
>>>>>>>>>> distant other requirements need] that determines the
>>>>>>>>>> "connection" to whatever offered.
>>>>>>>>> You keep implying that the terms Web/Internet are
>>>>>>>>> interchangable. They arent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> usenet has NOTHING to do with the web.
>>>>>>>> Ok, so where are you receiving the newsgroups from
>>>>>>> You can see that in the headers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and via what [and I don't mean the app used]?
>>>>>>> NNTP. Nothing to do with the web.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Internet is an internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Web is a web.
>>>>>> The NTTP servers are on the Internet.
>>>>> But have absolutely nothing to do with any web.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Web is on the Internet.
>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>> web.
>>>>>
>>>>>> An intranet may contain an NNTP server and not connect to the
>>>>>> Internet.
>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>> web.
>>>>>
>>>>>> A web may contain messages from a news group.
>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>> web.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Web may contain messages from Usenets, Forums, private
>>>>>> internets or intranets, News, newsgroups, and news postings.
>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>> web.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Internet contains webs, the Web, newsgroups, News servers,
>>>>>> http servers, etc...
>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>> web.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now split them from each other...
>>>>> Just did.
>>>>>
>>>>>> its a ludicrous argument...
>>>>> Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in
>>>>> front of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> the world changes and so does how its perceived.
>>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>>> web.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just one more attempt to make Usenet something special...
>>>>> Nope, just rubbing your pig ignorant nose in the FACT that an NNTP
>>>>> server has nothing to do with any web.
>>>>>
>>>>>> it was originally, now is another matter.
>>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well you may have your personal chance to do exactly that, prove me
>>>> wrong.
>>> Just did.
>>>
>>>> Of course it will take more than the normal Usenet crap. Your going
>>>> to have to post info, liks, and all the things required to do so.
>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>
>>>> What YOU posted means squat.
>>> You in spades, child.
> 
>> Ah yeah... you didn't ... you couldn't ... and you never will.
> 
> Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, child.
> 
>> So have you ever done anything in your life worth having you on the planet for?
> 
> You in spades, child.
> 
> 
> 

 I would suggest you look at the Oldus Fartus segment, though I doubt
you will understand, particularly as you have reverted to the usual
garbage spewed by trolls in Usenet.

 In particular, this segment - Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 01:14:42 -0400
From: MEB:

" Okay what ever. Perhaps  you should first note the deliberate usage of
a lower case *web* not Web [as in the world-wide]. Change your thought
pattern, maybe.
 It was a Usenet *bait* offering, to reel in the trolls. You can see it
was successful [not meaning you of course]."

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