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Article #84Re: Hey, I know -- let's threaten the president in e-mail!
From: Peter Bruells
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:06
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:06
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>>>>> "Mcfarlane" == Mcfarlane Jeffrey Alexander <a209mcfa@cdf.toronto.edu> writes:
In article <a209mcfa.766358165@cdf.toronto.edu> a209mcfa@cdf.toronto.edu (Mcfarlane Jeffrey Alexander) writes:
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Mcfarlane> Hey there! I just happen to have my english translation
Mcfarlane> of the ol' Grundgesetz right here, and I quote:
Mcfarlane> Section 1 (Basic Rights)
Mcfarlane> Article 16
Mcfarlane> (1) No one may be deprived of their German
Mcfarlane> citizenship. Loss of citizenship may arise only
Mcfarlane> pursuant to law, and against the will of the person
Mcfarlane> affected only if such person does not thereby become
Mcfarlane> stateless.
Mcfarlane> (2) No German may be EXTRADITED to a foreign
Mcfarlane> country. Persons persecuted on political grounds shall
Mcfarlane> enjoy the right to asylum. (Is that last bit the part
Mcfarlane> that was recently changed?)
Mcfarlane> This is very interesting, I think.
Mcfarlane> Are there any well-known cases where a German has
Mcfarlane> commited a serious crime in another country and has
Mcfarlane> been tried and convicted for that crime in Germany and
Mcfarlane> served (or is currently serving) their sentence?
There were, but since I didn't pay attention, I can't provide
sources. :(
Mcfarlane> What exactly happens in such situations?
Mcfarlane> I can't imagine that Germany would simply let someone
Mcfarlane> who (z.B.) murdered someone in Canada and managed to
Mcfarlane> make it back to Germany to go unpunished.
Nope. It wouldn't. As long as the alleged crime is a crime in Germany,
the elleged offender will be prosecuted upon notification of the
proper authorities and judged according to German law. But he or she
will NOT be turned over to a foreign country.
Mcfarlane> Would that person be arrested and tried in Germany by
Mcfarlane> German authorities? Would the German government pick
Mcfarlane> up the tab for witnesses to be flown to Germany to
Mcfarlane> participate in the trial? Or what?
Good question. I'll try to dig up some infos on this.
Mcfarlane> Here's some more questions:
Mcfarlane> - Is Kohl going down this year or not?
Hard to tell. Just now it's not a question of who's more able to run
the country, but who is less UNable. And right now the SPD and her
leader, Scharping, are not exactly promising. Clueless, all of them...
Mcfarlane> - Why do some people put a D before the
Mcfarlane> Postl(mumble)zahl? Is it because they're so used to
Mcfarlane> putting a W or O and they canna break the habit?
Nope, that's just an additional information used by some Europeans. D
for german, AU for Austria, etc. It's not really needed.
Mcfarlane> ttfn
Mcfarlane> Jeff McFarlane
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