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On 10/04/10 10:03, Andy wrote:
> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>
>> So I have this problem... (insert bar joke here)
>>
>> Now that's out of the way; I'm using Thunderbird Shredder 3.0.3 beta;
>> this was an upgrade from TB2.0.4, on Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala.
>>
>> Turns out there's a newer version (3.0.4 stable), but I can't seem to
>> install it. Fairly newb here for linux, so I'm used to .deb or apt-get,
>> neither of which work for me so far on this, since Ubuntu seems to like
>> updating their files as much as your average luddite...
>
>  From the command line, Add the PPA:
>
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
>
> Then:
>
> sudo apt-get update
>
> Followed by
>
> sudo apt-get install thunderbird
>
>
> Voila, you should now be running Thunderbird 3 (a final, non-beta
> version.)
>
> Cheers,
> Andy.

Hmm. Ironically, I managed to get it updated as of today, but for one 
problem - turns out that it still doesn't have my broken associations =/

Anyone have a clue where to start with that? The mozilla usenet is kinda 
dead.

On 10/04/10 16:14, Andy wrote:
> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>
>> On 10/04/10 10:03, Andy wrote:
>>> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>>>
>>>> So I have this problem... (insert bar joke here)
>>>>
>>>> Now that's out of the way; I'm using Thunderbird Shredder 3.0.3 beta;
>>>> this was an upgrade from TB2.0.4, on Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala.
>>>>
>>>> Turns out there's a newer version (3.0.4 stable), but I can't seem to
>>>> install it. Fairly newb here for linux, so I'm used to .deb or apt-get,
>>>> neither of which work for me so far on this, since Ubuntu seems to like
>>>> updating their files as much as your average luddite...
>>>
>>>    From the command line, Add the PPA:
>>>
>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
>>>
>>> Then:
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>
>>> Followed by
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get install thunderbird
>>>
>>>
>>> Voila, you should now be running Thunderbird 3 (a final, non-beta
>>> version.)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andy.
>>
>> Hmm. Ironically, I managed to get it updated as of today,
>
> Using my instructions above or using a different method like compiling
> from source?

Using similar instructions. I added the ppa into synaptic, and then did 
the apt-get update/install thunderird

I then got TB 3.0.4 (final).

>> but for one
>> problem - turns out that it still doesn't have my broken associations =/
>
>> Anyone have a clue where to start with that? The mozilla usenet is kinda
>> dead.
>
> You'll need to explain what 'broken associations' are, and why they'd be
> a good thing to have.

Associations = the different functions for using non-email content; such 
as HTML RSS feeds, .jpg images for downloads, etc.

TB normally allows you to use it by going into Preferences -> 
Attachments, and then selecting the programs to use for each file type.

Unfortunately, not only is the file type list blank, there's no options 
to add to it, and TB isn't doing as it's supposed to with unrecognised 
file types.

Any clues where the attachment association might be? As in as a list or 
file that I can edit manually?

On 10/04/10 18:08, Benji Z-Man wrote:
> On 10/04/10 16:14, Andy wrote:
>> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/04/10 10:03, Andy wrote:
>>>> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So I have this problem... (insert bar joke here)
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that's out of the way; I'm using Thunderbird Shredder 3.0.3 beta;
>>>>> this was an upgrade from TB2.0.4, on Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala.
>>>>>
>>>>> Turns out there's a newer version (3.0.4 stable), but I can't seem to
>>>>> install it. Fairly newb here for linux, so I'm used to .deb or
>>>>> apt-get,
>>>>> neither of which work for me so far on this, since Ubuntu seems to
>>>>> like
>>>>> updating their files as much as your average luddite...
>>>>
>>>> From the command line, Add the PPA:
>>>>
>>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
>>>>
>>>> Then:
>>>>
>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>
>>>> Followed by
>>>>
>>>> sudo apt-get install thunderbird
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Voila, you should now be running Thunderbird 3 (a final, non-beta
>>>> version.)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Andy.
>>>
>>> Hmm. Ironically, I managed to get it updated as of today,
>>
>> Using my instructions above or using a different method like compiling
>> from source?
>
> Using similar instructions. I added the ppa into synaptic, and then did
> the apt-get update/install thunderird
>
> I then got TB 3.0.4 (final).
>
>>> but for one
>>> problem - turns out that it still doesn't have my broken associations =/
>>
>>> Anyone have a clue where to start with that? The mozilla usenet is kinda
>>> dead.
>>
>> You'll need to explain what 'broken associations' are, and why they'd be
>> a good thing to have.
>
> Associations = the different functions for using non-email content; such
> as HTML RSS feeds, .jpg images for downloads, etc.
>
> TB normally allows you to use it by going into Preferences ->
> Attachments, and then selecting the programs to use for each file type.
>
> Unfortunately, not only is the file type list blank, there's no options
> to add to it, and TB isn't doing as it's supposed to with unrecognised
> file types.
>
> Any clues where the attachment association might be? As in as a list or
> file that I can edit manually?

grepping my t/b user config, I find that it lives in pluginreg.dat with 
a host of other stuff (the only one I had was Adobe).
Try saving your whole config, and deleting pluginreg.dat before starting 
t/b and see if it is reconstructed.

On 10/04/10 20:34, A D wrote:
> On 10/04/10 18:08, Benji Z-Man wrote:
>> On 10/04/10 16:14, Andy wrote:
>>> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/04/10 10:03, Andy wrote:
>>>>> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So I have this problem... (insert bar joke here)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that's out of the way; I'm using Thunderbird Shredder 3.0.3 beta;
>>>>>> this was an upgrade from TB2.0.4, on Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Turns out there's a newer version (3.0.4 stable), but I can't seem to
>>>>>> install it. Fairly newb here for linux, so I'm used to .deb or
>>>>>> apt-get,
>>>>>> neither of which work for me so far on this, since Ubuntu seems to
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> updating their files as much as your average luddite...
>>>>>
>>>>> From the command line, Add the PPA:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
>>>>>
>>>>> Then:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>>
>>>>> Followed by
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get install thunderbird
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Voila, you should now be running Thunderbird 3 (a final, non-beta
>>>>> version.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andy.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Ironically, I managed to get it updated as of today,
>>>
>>> Using my instructions above or using a different method like compiling
>>> from source?
>>
>> Using similar instructions. I added the ppa into synaptic, and then did
>> the apt-get update/install thunderird
>>
>> I then got TB 3.0.4 (final).
>>
>>>> but for one
>>>> problem - turns out that it still doesn't have my broken
>>>> associations =/
>>>
>>>> Anyone have a clue where to start with that? The mozilla usenet is
>>>> kinda
>>>> dead.
>>>
>>> You'll need to explain what 'broken associations' are, and why they'd be
>>> a good thing to have.
>>
>> Associations = the different functions for using non-email content; such
>> as HTML RSS feeds, .jpg images for downloads, etc.
>>
>> TB normally allows you to use it by going into Preferences ->
>> Attachments, and then selecting the programs to use for each file type.
>>
>> Unfortunately, not only is the file type list blank, there's no options
>> to add to it, and TB isn't doing as it's supposed to with unrecognised
>> file types.
>>
>> Any clues where the attachment association might be? As in as a list or
>> file that I can edit manually?
>
> grepping my t/b user config, I find that it lives in pluginreg.dat with
> a host of other stuff (the only one I had was Adobe).
> Try saving your whole config, and deleting pluginreg.dat before starting
> t/b and see if it is reconstructed.

Aha! Found it, than-

... *Reads the file*

===

The <a href="http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/">Totem</a> 2.28.2 
plugin handles video and audio streams.:$
Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem):$

===

It's full of what seems to be links to windows programs. Not very 
friendly to my particular tastes, IMO. Also; deleting it doesn't seem to 
affect it - it is reconstructed /with/ the bodgy windows program 
associations. =/ Not happy, Jan.

On 10/04/10 21:18, Benji Z-Man wrote:

> It's full of what seems to be links to windows programs. Not very
> friendly to my particular tastes, IMO. Also; deleting it doesn't seem to
> affect it - it is reconstructed /with/ the bodgy windows program
> associations. =/ Not happy, Jan.

Gah. I feel stupid. Just actually read the file again. =_= Disregard 
last post - it's full of the associations I need, with sections 
explaining what they're compared to, from what I can see.

Still hasn't affected the load of TB, though.

On 10/04/10 20:34, A D wrote:
> On 10/04/10 18:08, Benji Z-Man wrote:
>> On 10/04/10 16:14, Andy wrote:
>>> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/04/10 10:03, Andy wrote:
>>>>> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So I have this problem... (insert bar joke here)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that's out of the way; I'm using Thunderbird Shredder 3.0.3 beta;
>>>>>> this was an upgrade from TB2.0.4, on Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Turns out there's a newer version (3.0.4 stable), but I can't seem to
>>>>>> install it. Fairly newb here for linux, so I'm used to .deb or
>>>>>> apt-get,
>>>>>> neither of which work for me so far on this, since Ubuntu seems to
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> updating their files as much as your average luddite...
>>>>>
>>>>> From the command line, Add the PPA:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
>>>>>
>>>>> Then:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>>
>>>>> Followed by
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get install thunderbird
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Voila, you should now be running Thunderbird 3 (a final, non-beta
>>>>> version.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andy.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Ironically, I managed to get it updated as of today,
>>>
>>> Using my instructions above or using a different method like compiling
>>> from source?
>>
>> Using similar instructions. I added the ppa into synaptic, and then did
>> the apt-get update/install thunderird
>>
>> I then got TB 3.0.4 (final).
>>
>>>> but for one
>>>> problem - turns out that it still doesn't have my broken
>>>> associations =/
>>>
>>>> Anyone have a clue where to start with that? The mozilla usenet is
>>>> kinda
>>>> dead.
>>>
>>> You'll need to explain what 'broken associations' are, and why they'd be
>>> a good thing to have.
>>
>> Associations = the different functions for using non-email content; such
>> as HTML RSS feeds, .jpg images for downloads, etc.
>>
>> TB normally allows you to use it by going into Preferences ->
>> Attachments, and then selecting the programs to use for each file type.
>>
>> Unfortunately, not only is the file type list blank, there's no options
>> to add to it, and TB isn't doing as it's supposed to with unrecognised
>> file types.
>>
>> Any clues where the attachment association might be? As in as a list or
>> file that I can edit manually?
>
> grepping my t/b user config, I find that it lives in pluginreg.dat with
> a host of other stuff (the only one I had was Adobe).
> Try saving your whole config, and deleting pluginreg.dat before starting
> t/b and see if it is reconstructed.

Bah, I'm going to try just reinstalling again, backing up all my config 
again bar pluginreg.dat

On 10/04/10 18:18, Andy wrote:
> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>
>> On 10/04/10 16:14, Andy wrote:
>>> Benji Z-Man wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/04/10 10:03, Andy wrote:
>
>>>>>      From the command line, Add the PPA:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
>>>>>
>>>>> Then:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>>
>>>>> Followed by
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo apt-get install thunderbird
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Voila, you should now be running Thunderbird 3 (a final, non-beta
>>>>> version.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andy.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Ironically, I managed to get it updated as of today,
>>>
>>> Using my instructions above or using a different method like compiling
>>> from source?
>>
>> Using similar instructions. I added the ppa into synaptic, and then did
>> the apt-get update/install thunderird
>>
>> I then got TB 3.0.4 (final).
>>
>>>> but for one
>>>> problem - turns out that it still doesn't have my broken associations =/
>>>
>>>> Anyone have a clue where to start with that? The mozilla usenet is kinda
>>>> dead.
>>>
>>> You'll need to explain what 'broken associations' are, and why they'd be
>>> a good thing to have.
>>
>> Associations = the different functions for using non-email content; such
>> as HTML RSS feeds, .jpg images for downloads, etc.
>>
>> TB normally allows you to use it by going into Preferences ->
>> Attachments, and then selecting the programs to use for each file type.
>>
>> Unfortunately, not only is the file type list blank, there's no options
>> to add to it, and TB isn't doing as it's supposed to with unrecognised
>> file types.
>
> Gotcha.  The default associations I have are solely for JPEG and PDF
> files.
>
>> Any clues where the attachment association might be? As in as a list or
>> file that I can edit manually?
>
> I have a hunch it'd be located somewhere in the mess that is the
> ~/.thunderbird directory.
>
> (But I don't know 100%).
>
> It's worth exiting TB, moving or renaming ~/.thunderbird, relaunching
> and re-configuring from scratch again to see if this behaviour is fixed.
>   That's what I'd be doing, as ~/.thunderbird is where all the
> configuration stuff lives for each user account.
>
> Hope this helps/works,
> Andy.

In the end, seems to be mimetypes.rdf that holds the associations - 
deleting it simply empties the list. Now just looking around on the 
intertubes to see if I can find a nice preset to save me some hard 
brainwork - not my forte at this hour.

On 10/04/10 21:31, Benji Z-Man wrote:

> Bah, I'm going to try just reinstalling again, backing up all my config
> again bar pluginreg.dat

Ugh. I hate insomnia. Still at it, apologies if my brain has gone to 
mush by now.

Uninstalled TB, reinstalled TB, the apt-get seems to have landed me 
3.0.5 however - no issues, though, because now the program is asking me 
for unfamiliar file types at last!

Still not perfect - can't seem to get access to many .mpg or .wmv files, 
which is a problem for work (surveillence videos, for example), but it's 
nothing major now that I can actually load files (such as .html or .pdf) 
without breaking a sweat now.

Thanks =)

On 10/04/10 22:31, Benji Z-Man wrote:
> On 10/04/10 21:31, Benji Z-Man wrote:
>
>> Bah, I'm going to try just reinstalling again, backing up all my config
>> again bar pluginreg.dat
>
> Ugh. I hate insomnia. Still at it, apologies if my brain has gone to
> mush by now.
>
> Uninstalled TB, reinstalled TB, the apt-get seems to have landed me
> 3.0.5 however - no issues, though, because now the program is asking me
> for unfamiliar file types at last!
>
> Still not perfect - can't seem to get access to many .mpg or .wmv files,
> which is a problem for work (surveillence videos, for example), but it's
> nothing major now that I can actually load files (such as .html or .pdf)
> without breaking a sweat now.
>
> Thanks =)

Found one of the issues at least - the ppa seems to send me nothing but 
betas =/ I just found my firefox crashing after I got an update on it - 
checking it shows me the 3.6 beta - which is what 3.0.5 is for TB.

=/ Anyone have a more up-to-date finals ppa?

On 11/04/10 09:25, Benji Z-Man wrote:
> On 10/04/10 22:31, Benji Z-Man wrote:
>> On 10/04/10 21:31, Benji Z-Man wrote:
>>
>>> Bah, I'm going to try just reinstalling again, backing up all my config
>>> again bar pluginreg.dat
>>
>> Ugh. I hate insomnia. Still at it, apologies if my brain has gone to
>> mush by now.
>>
>> Uninstalled TB, reinstalled TB, the apt-get seems to have landed me
>> 3.0.5 however - no issues, though, because now the program is asking me
>> for unfamiliar file types at last!
>>
>> Still not perfect - can't seem to get access to many .mpg or .wmv files,
>> which is a problem for work (surveillence videos, for example), but it's
>> nothing major now that I can actually load files (such as .html or .pdf)
>> without breaking a sweat now.
>>
>> Thanks =)
>
> Found one of the issues at least - the ppa seems to send me nothing but
> betas =/ I just found my firefox crashing after I got an update on it -
> checking it shows me the 3.6 beta - which is what 3.0.5 is for TB.
>
> =/ Anyone have a more up-to-date finals ppa?

Wouldn't ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily be likely to mostly serve betas?
Ie, it is a daily snapshot of a development tree.

On 11/04/10 14:38, A D wrote:
> Wouldn't ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily be likely to mostly serve betas?
> Ie, it is a daily snapshot of a development tree.

Is that what it is, then?

On 11/04/10 15:01, Benji Z-Man wrote:
> On 11/04/10 14:38, A D wrote:
>> Wouldn't ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily be likely to mostly serve betas?
>> Ie, it is a daily snapshot of a development tree.
>
> Is that what it is, then?

Didn't have much time to post - fafted around for a bit, then went to 
software-sources, disabled the mozilla ppa, then did an apt-get remove 
then apt-get install for firefox, and it's working fine on 3.5.9 stable.

So that's that done finally ^^ Thanks for the help.