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Re: and people wonder why im angry

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From: Dwayne Jones-Evans
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 08:14
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Christopher Mountford (cjmount@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU) wrote:
: scot@sysx.apana.org.au (Scot Art) writes:

: But Rosie is saying very little here. 

Why do you thin this is so?

: I am saying a whole fucken heap. 

Look out, you'll have complaints sent to your sysadmin!

: I really don't think I am personally endorsing Rosie and all her ideas,
: just her equal claim to discuss them.

Fine, you've done that. Congratulations. Now what? Where is she? Why
hasn't she exposed the net as the seething morass of sexism and inherent
nastiness which it allegedly is?

: >My point is, Rosie has an online history of responding to legitimate
: >criticism with personal attacks and engaging in the very tactics
: >described, i.e. she attempts to delegitimise the other's position in
: >totality, 

: I have seen no evidence of this and would prefer to ignore it since it's 
: just hearsay. 

What would it take to convince you of this?  I have, ooh, about 6 or so
private email messages saying exactly this. But that's all just hearsay.

Apparently rosie was subjected to sexist behaviour.

But that's just hearsay.

Not biased, are you?

: I don't support any alleged call to censorship made by
: Rosie. But I won't make personal attacks on her either.

Because you yourself have no personal knowledge of it. good on you.  But
what of us who *do* have personal knowledge? Why do you dismiss us
completely, yet accept rosie at face value?

: >and she also wrongfully paints her position (on _anything_) as a
: >totalised "feminist" position (i.e. one that ALL feminists must hold, by
: >deafult). 

: Well I am against this as well bu have not seen Rosie doing it.

Yes you have.  There are megabytes of explanation supporting this, from
myself and also elsewhere.

: She says she doesn't. See where personal character profiles
: get so hazy? It's just immature to accuse people of being 
: like <insert>. Like you, and Rosie as she says in some parts,
: I want to see the crap addressed and wiped from the virtual arse 
: of the internet.

Yippee. Start with the root cause of this thread, false allegations made
about my behaviour.

: But Scott, that's just what I've been saying all along. It seems people 
: don't want a debate. They want blood.

Funny that. A call for a jihad against me seems to have turned against
the person calling for it. Damn those pesky net people, they seem to be
able to think for themselves!

Dwayne.




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