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[From Bill Powers (990504.1211 MDT);

Marc Abrams ( 990504.0954)--

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>> From Bill Powers (990503.1034 MDT)]
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>> Note that countercontrol is not possible when coercion is happening: the
>> means of acting is no longer B's to vary.
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Marc:

>What about while the "threat" of coercion is taking place?
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>Are you also saying Bill that "talking" is not an action?

Countercontrol would be possible when force is only threatened, because
nothing physically prevents the person from acting.

Use your imagination. You can't imagine anything that people haven't
actually done to other people in order to control their actions.

Talking is certain an action, but if you're gagged, or your lips are sewn
shut, or your tongue is cut out, you are prevented from taking that action.
Talk is also ineffective if the coercer simply ignores what you say, as if
you hadn't said anything.

Best,

Bill