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From [ Marc Abrams (990504.1501) ]

> [From Bill Powers (990504.1211 MDT);
>
> Marc Abrams ( 990504.0954)--
> Countercontrol would be possible when force is only threatened, because
> nothing physically prevents the person from acting.

Ok.


> Use your imagination. You can't imagine anything that people haven't
> actually done to other people in order to control their actions.

No question about it :-)

> Talking is certain an action, but if you're gagged, or your lips are sewn
> shut, or your tongue is cut out, you are prevented from taking that
action.
> Talk is also ineffective if the coercer simply ignores what you say, as if
> you hadn't said anything.

Yes, but that does not negate the fact that coercion and counter-control
_may_ be simultaneously going on. I guess it can get real sticky, very
quickly.

Thanks Bill,

Marc