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3 total messages Started by Wontola Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:46
For .NET -> Delphi 2005 ... and... What about for C++ Builder ?
#596
Author: Wontola
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:46
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Hi...

I want to know if Borland will make some version of C++ Builder for 
.NET, like Delphi 2005.

Actually I use C++ Builder 5 Enterprise very well and never find any 
problems, but the new goal for the company is migrate all aplications to 
Microsoft .NET framework, I�m C/C++ programer and I want still use 
Borland Compilers, but I can't find any information about the future of 
C++ Builder 6, in this case.

In this momment I don�t know what happend with C++ Builder and I know 
VC.NET can create windows form�s now.

Is the time for leave C++ Builder and I use VC ?
Is the time for leave this community ?

I'm C/C++ programmer since 1991, I use Turbo C 2.0, Borland 3.1, 
Borlannd 4.5, Borland 5, C++Builder 1, C++ Builder 3, C++ Builder 4 and 
now C++ Builder 5. Is the time for change Borland and I use VC ?

I don�t want this....
Re: For .NET -> Delphi 2005 ... and... What about for C++ Builder ?
#597
Author: Alisdair Meredith
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:14
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Wontola wrote:


> I want to know if Borland will make some version of C++ Builder for
> .NET, like Delphi 2005.

Note that Microsoft are making the C++/CLI binding for .NET into an
international standard through ECMA.  While Borland have not yet
announced if they will implement this standard, they are a member of
the commitee <g>

> Actually I use C++ Builder 5 Enterprise very well and never find any
> problems, but the new goal for the company is migrate all aplications
> to Microsoft .NET framework, I�m C/C++ programer and I want still use
> Borland Compilers, but I can't find any information about the future
> of C++ Builder 6, in this case.

The next version of C++Builder will ship as 'the C++ personality' of
the next version of Delphi:

http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32845,00.html


This version will probably target Win32 development, with .NET support
to follow later.  Nothing official yet, but based on the following
comment in the C++Builder chat last month:

http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32958,00.html

drbob42: "when we see the C++Builder personality in the Delphi (BDS)
IDE, will that mean a Win32 or a .NET C++ personality? (or both? ;-)"
 - additional work will happen for .NET after this Win32-supporting
release


> In this momment I don�t know what happend with C++ Builder and I know
> VC.NET can create windows form�s now.

Personally, I would not like to write for WinForms using managed C++.
The C++/CLI binding that MS (and others) are now working on is a much
better approach, but will not be available until VS.NET 2005 is
released.  It is a much neater and more complete solution. that
effectively replaces managed C++ (which MS will continue to support for
back compatibility only, not as an ongoing development)

> Is the time for leave C++ Builder and I use VC ?
> Is the time for leave this community ?

Right now I would say not - neither does .NET very well so I would wait
and see the next version of both products, and then decide.  I would
not like to pick any current product for .NET development in C++.

AlisdairM(TeamB)
Re: For .NET -> Delphi 2005 ... and... What about for C++ Builder ?
#598
Author: Wontola
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:16
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Thanks a lot for your comments Alisdair, I really appreciate this...

Muchas gracias por tu informaci�n.

Alisdair Meredith wrote:
> Wontola wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>>I want to know if Borland will make some version of C++ Builder for
>>.NET, like Delphi 2005.
> 
> 
> Note that Microsoft are making the C++/CLI binding for .NET into an
> international standard through ECMA.  While Borland have not yet
> announced if they will implement this standard, they are a member of
> the commitee <g>
> 
>>Actually I use C++ Builder 5 Enterprise very well and never find any
>>problems, but the new goal for the company is migrate all aplications
>>to Microsoft .NET framework, I�m C/C++ programer and I want still use
>>Borland Compilers, but I can't find any information about the future
>>of C++ Builder 6, in this case.
> 
> 
> The next version of C++Builder will ship as 'the C++ personality' of
> the next version of Delphi:
> 
> http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32845,00.html
> 
> 
> This version will probably target Win32 development, with .NET support
> to follow later.  Nothing official yet, but based on the following
> comment in the C++Builder chat last month:
> 
> http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32958,00.html
> 
> drbob42: "when we see the C++Builder personality in the Delphi (BDS)
> IDE, will that mean a Win32 or a .NET C++ personality? (or both? ;-)"
>  - additional work will happen for .NET after this Win32-supporting
> release
> 
> 
> 
>>In this momment I don�t know what happend with C++ Builder and I know
>>VC.NET can create windows form�s now.
> 
> 
> Personally, I would not like to write for WinForms using managed C++.
> The C++/CLI binding that MS (and others) are now working on is a much
> better approach, but will not be available until VS.NET 2005 is
> released.  It is a much neater and more complete solution. that
> effectively replaces managed C++ (which MS will continue to support for
> back compatibility only, not as an ongoing development)
> 
> 
>>Is the time for leave C++ Builder and I use VC ?
>>Is the time for leave this community ?
> 
> 
> Right now I would say not - neither does .NET very well so I would wait
> and see the next version of both products, and then decide.  I would
> not like to pick any current product for .NET development in C++.
> 
> AlisdairM(TeamB)
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