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smr <me@shawnritchie.com> wrote:
> On 11/15/2011 2:22 AM, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>> Adam H. Kerman<ahk@chinet.com>  wrote:
>>> dye<dye11@adsl-64-108-194-61.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net>  wrote:
>>>> Cydrome Leader<presence@MUNGEpanix.com>  wrote:
>>>>> Bruce Esquibel<bje@ripco.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> dye<dye@adsl-64-108-194-61.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> At the time, chicagonet.net didn't detect two 64k connections,
>>>>>>> so I got all the computers in the network 128K access for
>>>>>>> $15/month....a bit of an improvement over 40k "dialout"
>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, that doesn't sound right.
>>>
>>>>>> Maybe they didn't detect it but must of permitted it, the channel bonding
>>>>>> for ISDN was mostly an option to support, I don't think it was "on" by
>>>>>> default with most hardware.
>>>
>>>>>> Besides the profile to support the bonding, the stuff we used (livingston
>>>>>> and 3com) I think used a stock profile setting "Line-Limit=1" so if someone
>>>>>> borrowed someone elses login and tried to use it, both connections were
>>>>>> dropped.
>>>
>>>>>> I'm just saying, was probably more intentional than accidental.
>>>
>>>>>> Maybe they outsourced.
>>>
>>>>> I think I used chicagonet if it was the NT (really) based ISP that just
>>>>> rented dialup pool connections from level3 or something like that.
>>>
>>>>> lots of those places really didn't know if you had both channels up. It
>>>>> took RCN years to notice I (and everybody) was doing that.
>>>
>>>> They had two different price plans, so not intentional.  I seem to
>>>> remember my one data line being "dialed out" most of the time.
>>>> Since it was a "Band A" call, it was 5 cents, untimed.
>>>
>>> Timed data call is the stupidity that prevented ISDN from being more
>>> widely deployed and kept numerous people on modems who would have
>>> bought digital service instead.
>>
>> Was this strictly because it was data or a "business" type service?
>>
>> I'm sure this changed at some point, but as I recall businesses always
>> payed per minute for their calls and didn't get the flat rate or callpack
>> stuff consumers got. With the ISDN stuff, unless you said it was home
>> service, you'd pay the always higher business rates even if you never
>> placed a call.
> 
> Yep. Businesses never got the flat rate stuff that I recall, either. I 
> had a few arguments with their billing for my dual-ISDN where they 
> somehow thought my home was a business.
> 
>> The other deregulation era complete joke was "reciprocal compensation"-
>> where in theory, ameritech would pay you to terminal a phone call if you
>> did it digitally or though your own switch or something like that. Of
>> course they never payed unles you sued for so many years that everybody
>> forogt what the suit was even about.
> 
> Ah, CABS fees. These are still a very hilariously entertaining part of 
> the phone biz. We're all breaking a fuckton of Federal regulations and 
> laws with how we handle 'em, is my guess. Basically, we all agree to not 
> charge each other the recip comp fees. Every once in a while, some 
> small-town asshole company makes a stink about it and we have to band 
> together with the big dogs to let the little company know what's going 
> to happen to their business overall if they really try to push the CABS 
> issue.

haha.

what sort of handwritten bills do those hick grain, electric and phone 
co-ops come up with? $148.23?