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On 2011-08-12, Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>At one office, they'd set up Outlook Express years ago. What a horrid client.
>> 
>>>>They've got an AT&T Web hosting account, through which they also get email.
>>>>After the help desk previously denied that they had an IMAP server, one of
>>>>the help desk droids admitted that they did indeed have an IMAP server.
>> 
>>>>So I switched Outlook Express from POP3 to IMAP. I don't know if it's IMAP4,
>>>>because it doesn't say. It's helpful to be able to check messages remotely,
>>>>which I cannot do with POP3.
>> 
>>>>How do I adjust the folder order as it appears on the left side
>>>>of the screen?  Even though I deleted or moved the messages in the
>>>>local Inbox set up for POP3, I cannot delete these mailboxes. It's a
>>>>feature. Meanwhile, the IMAP inboxes, the ones I need to check regularly,
>>>>appear at the end of the list.
>> 
>>>I've not used OE in some years, but recall you can hide junk accounts with 
>>>a new "identity", and the switch between them.
>> 
>> I saw a way to toggle the visibility of folders in the two IMAP accounts,
>> but there didn't seem to be a way to hide the default local folders created
>> for retrieving Mail via POP3.
>
> Here's the first problem- pop3. throw that shit away, the 90s are over. The second you configure pop3, you're already 
> doing it wrong.
>
>>>>The synchronization feature is likely to cause problems, so I turned it off.
>> 
>>>never heard of this.
>> 
>> When it connects to the INBOX via IMAP, or one of the folders on the
>> remote host, it creates a cache of those mailboxes locally. It saves the
>> cache by default, but it can be purged. The trouble is that the user
>> increases the chance that the wrong email message will be deleted by
>> default since it's not immediately obvious if the action takes effect
>> on the cached message or the message on the remote server.
>
> I used outlook express for years and never had these problems. Maybe AT&T 
> runs some buggy shit like UW imap that's been ported to windows or 
> something like that.
>
> It's not uncommon for hundreds of people to be logged into my IMAP servers 
> and I've stepped people through virtually any IMAP client ever written 
> over at least 10 years now and we're talking some with extreme mailboxes 
> exceeding 20GB and hundreds of thousands of messages, including bizarre 
> stuff like 45,000 messages in their inbox. yeah, the blackberry client 
> used to asplode past 8192 or so messages per folder. I've never seen mutt 
> go past 20,000 per folder, and OE has no problem going past 32k messages 
> per folder or even the inbox.

I've used Mutt to ~75,000 in a single folder. It was slow as shit to sync, 
but once it had the message list up, it flew. 

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Kristian Zoerhoff
kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com