🚀 go-pugleaf

Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2011-08-12, Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>>>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>At one office, they'd set up Outlook Express years ago. What a horrid client.
>>> 
>>>>>They've got an AT&T Web hosting account, through which they also get email.
>>>>>After the help desk previously denied that they had an IMAP server, one of
>>>>>the help desk droids admitted that they did indeed have an IMAP server.
>>> 
>>>>>So I switched Outlook Express from POP3 to IMAP. I don't know if it's IMAP4,
>>>>>because it doesn't say. It's helpful to be able to check messages remotely,
>>>>>which I cannot do with POP3.
>>> 
>>>>>How do I adjust the folder order as it appears on the left side
>>>>>of the screen?  Even though I deleted or moved the messages in the
>>>>>local Inbox set up for POP3, I cannot delete these mailboxes. It's a
>>>>>feature. Meanwhile, the IMAP inboxes, the ones I need to check regularly,
>>>>>appear at the end of the list.
>>> 
>>>>I've not used OE in some years, but recall you can hide junk accounts with 
>>>>a new "identity", and the switch between them.
>>> 
>>> I saw a way to toggle the visibility of folders in the two IMAP accounts,
>>> but there didn't seem to be a way to hide the default local folders created
>>> for retrieving Mail via POP3.
>>
>> Here's the first problem- pop3. throw that shit away, the 90s are over. The second you configure pop3, you're already 
>> doing it wrong.
>>
>>>>>The synchronization feature is likely to cause problems, so I turned it off.
>>> 
>>>>never heard of this.
>>> 
>>> When it connects to the INBOX via IMAP, or one of the folders on the
>>> remote host, it creates a cache of those mailboxes locally. It saves the
>>> cache by default, but it can be purged. The trouble is that the user
>>> increases the chance that the wrong email message will be deleted by
>>> default since it's not immediately obvious if the action takes effect
>>> on the cached message or the message on the remote server.
>>
>> I used outlook express for years and never had these problems. Maybe AT&T 
>> runs some buggy shit like UW imap that's been ported to windows or 
>> something like that.
>>
>> It's not uncommon for hundreds of people to be logged into my IMAP servers 
>> and I've stepped people through virtually any IMAP client ever written 
>> over at least 10 years now and we're talking some with extreme mailboxes 
>> exceeding 20GB and hundreds of thousands of messages, including bizarre 
>> stuff like 45,000 messages in their inbox. yeah, the blackberry client 
>> used to asplode past 8192 or so messages per folder. I've never seen mutt 
>> go past 20,000 per folder, and OE has no problem going past 32k messages 
>> per folder or even the inbox.
> 
> I've used Mutt to ~75,000 in a single folder. It was slow as shit to sync, 
> but once it had the message list up, it flew. 

flew where? into a fucking core file?