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"theakson" <nope@nope.nope> wrote in news:jo3u5d$vi$1@ftupet.ftupet.com:

> Seems Dish are dumping AMC so I am considering throwing out ATT dish
> and just streaming everything.  Don't really care to sign up for tv
> it's just the bandwidth I am after and hopefully no caps.  I thought
> there was someone that worked for RCN who could give me a heads up on
> how good the service is in Chicago. The other consideration is CLEAR.
> 
> any one?
> 
> Hp

We've been Dish customers since 1997. My wife says we're changing if this 
AMC thing happens. We watch the Killing and she watches Mad Men. 

-- 
Coming to you from the beautiful Chicago suburbs

"Eric" <ericw2000@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:XnsA04C6A225C44BVRI@66.246.138.5...
> "theakson" <nope@nope.nope> wrote in news:jo3u5d$vi$1@ftupet.ftupet.com:
>
>> Seems Dish are dumping AMC so I am considering throwing out ATT dish
>> and just streaming everything.  Don't really care to sign up for tv
>> it's just the bandwidth I am after and hopefully no caps.  I thought
>> there was someone that worked for RCN who could give me a heads up on
>> how good the service is in Chicago. The other consideration is CLEAR.
>>
>> any one?
>>
>> Hp
>
> We've been Dish customers since 1997. My wife says we're changing if this
> AMC thing happens. We watch the Killing and she watches Mad Men.
>
> -- 
> Coming to you from the beautiful Chicago suburbs

ditto for us and walking dead. 

Eric <ericw2000@gmail.com> wrote:
> "theakson" <nope@nope.nope> wrote in news:jo3u5d$vi$1@ftupet.ftupet.com:
>
>> Seems Dish are dumping AMC so I am considering throwing out ATT dish
>> and just streaming everything.  Don't really care to sign up for tv
>> it's just the bandwidth I am after and hopefully no caps.  I thought
>> there was someone that worked for RCN who could give me a heads up on
>> how good the service is in Chicago. The other consideration is CLEAR.
>> 
>> any one?
>> 
>> Hp
>
> We've been Dish customers since 1997. My wife says we're changing if this 
> AMC thing happens. We watch the Killing and she watches Mad Men. 

sounds like the typical negotiation crap between the content and the
distributors.  lots of these kinds of disputes lately

In article <XnsA04C6A225C44BVRI@66.246.138.5>,
Eric  <ericw2000@gmail.com> wrote:
>"theakson" <nope@nope.nope> wrote in news:jo3u5d$vi$1@ftupet.ftupet.com:
>
>> Seems Dish are dumping AMC so I am considering throwing out ATT dish
>> and just streaming everything.  Don't really care to sign up for tv
>> it's just the bandwidth I am after and hopefully no caps.  I thought
>> there was someone that worked for RCN who could give me a heads up on
>> how good the service is in Chicago. The other consideration is CLEAR.
>> 
>> any one?
>> 
>> Hp
>
>We've been Dish customers since 1997. My wife says we're changing if this 
>AMC thing happens. We watch the Killing and she watches Mad Men. 

AMC?  They take perfectly good movies and edit them, then add
a very signal/noise ratio of commercials?

Get yer mad men on DVD/BL

--Ken
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Ken R. Dye                               an optimist is a guy             |
Chicago, Illinois                        that has never had               |
http://dye.datsun510.com/index1.html     much experience                  |
dye1146 at g mail dot com                                    archy        |

Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote in
news:slrnjqgfml.bnv.glg@ftupet.ftupet.com: 

> Eric <ericw2000@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "theakson" <nope@nope.nope> wrote in
>> news:jo3u5d$vi$1@ftupet.ftupet.com: 
>>
>>> Seems Dish are dumping AMC so I am considering throwing out ATT dish
>>> and just streaming everything.  Don't really care to sign up for tv
>>> it's just the bandwidth I am after and hopefully no caps.  I thought
>>> there was someone that worked for RCN who could give me a heads up
>>> on how good the service is in Chicago. The other consideration is
>>> CLEAR. 
>>> 
>>> any one?
>>> 
>>> Hp
>>
>> We've been Dish customers since 1997. My wife says we're changing if
>> this AMC thing happens. We watch the Killing and she watches Mad Men.
> 
> sounds like the typical negotiation crap between the content and the
> distributors.  lots of these kinds of disputes lately

This is a little different. AMC is suing Dish for a whole lot of money for 
something called VOOM. You'll have to google for the details. Dish has 
appealed the suit to various levels and it's not looking good for them, and 
the suit is going to proceed. This is their way of saying drop the 
suit/settle or we're taking our marbles and going home. They're trying to 
convey that this is another price increase they're stamping out, but that's 
not really true. 

-- 
Coming to you from the beautiful Chicago suburbs

Eric <ericw2000@gmail.com> wrote:

>This is a little different. AMC is suing Dish for a whole lot of money for 
>something called VOOM. You'll have to google for the details. Dish has 
>appealed the suit to various levels and it's not looking good for them, and 
>the suit is going to proceed. This is their way of saying drop the 
>suit/settle or we're taking our marbles and going home. They're trying to 
>convey that this is another price increase they're stamping out, but that's 
>not really true. 

Wow. Voom HD had a 15 year deal with EchoStar, the Dish Network predecessor.
Dish carried it only between 2005 and 2008. EchoStar/Dish paid $3.25 per
month per HD subscriber receiving Voom.

Cablevision was the only other distributor of Voom.

I don't see how Dish can drag this out in court for so long, but I'm
not a lawyer. Seems like a blatant breach of contract.

On 2012-05-09, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Eric <ericw2000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>This is a little different. AMC is suing Dish for a whole lot of money for 
>>something called VOOM. You'll have to google for the details. Dish has 
>>appealed the suit to various levels and it's not looking good for them, and 
>>the suit is going to proceed. This is their way of saying drop the 
>>suit/settle or we're taking our marbles and going home. They're trying to 
>>convey that this is another price increase they're stamping out, but that's 
>>not really true. 
>
> Wow. Voom HD had a 15 year deal with EchoStar, the Dish Network predecessor.
> Dish carried it only between 2005 and 2008. EchoStar/Dish paid $3.25 per
> month per HD subscriber receiving Voom.
>
> Cablevision was the only other distributor of Voom.
>
> I don't see how Dish can drag this out in court for so long, but I'm
> not a lawyer. Seems like a blatant breach of contract.

Dish is countering that Voom breached first by not providing promised 
content. My guess is they dragged out discovery by years.

-- 

Kristian M Zoerhoff

Kristian M Zoerhoff <zoerhoff@sdf.org> wrote:
>On 2012-05-09, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Eric <ericw2000@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>This is a little different. AMC is suing Dish for a whole lot of money for 
>>>something called VOOM. You'll have to google for the details. Dish has 
>>>appealed the suit to various levels and it's not looking good for them, and 
>>>the suit is going to proceed. This is their way of saying drop the 
>>>suit/settle or we're taking our marbles and going home. They're trying to 
>>>convey that this is another price increase they're stamping out, but that's 
>>>not really true. 

>>Wow. Voom HD had a 15 year deal with EchoStar, the Dish Network predecessor.
>>Dish carried it only between 2005 and 2008. EchoStar/Dish paid $3.25 per
>>month per HD subscriber receiving Voom.

>>Cablevision was the only other distributor of Voom.

>>I don't see how Dish can drag this out in court for so long, but I'm
>>not a lawyer. Seems like a blatant breach of contract.

>Dish is countering that Voom breached first by not providing promised 
>content. My guess is they dragged out discovery by years.

Ok, that's a point. $3.25 per month per subscriber had damn well better
buy a lot of valuable entertainment. That's something like fees paid to
HBO or Showtime at the time, if not more.

On 5/9/2012 2:50 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Kristian M Zoerhoff<zoerhoff@sdf.org>  wrote:
>> On 2012-05-09, Adam H. Kerman<ahk@chinet.com>  wrote:
>>> Eric<ericw2000@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>>>> This is a little different. AMC is suing Dish for a whole lot of money for
>>>> something called VOOM. You'll have to google for the details. Dish has
>>>> appealed the suit to various levels and it's not looking good for them, and
>>>> the suit is going to proceed. This is their way of saying drop the
>>>> suit/settle or we're taking our marbles and going home. They're trying to
>>>> convey that this is another price increase they're stamping out, but that's
>>>> not really true.
>
>>> Wow. Voom HD had a 15 year deal with EchoStar, the Dish Network predecessor.
>>> Dish carried it only between 2005 and 2008. EchoStar/Dish paid $3.25 per
>>> month per HD subscriber receiving Voom.
>
>>> Cablevision was the only other distributor of Voom.
>
>>> I don't see how Dish can drag this out in court for so long, but I'm
>>> not a lawyer. Seems like a blatant breach of contract.
>
>> Dish is countering that Voom breached first by not providing promised
>> content. My guess is they dragged out discovery by years.
>
> Ok, that's a point. $3.25 per month per subscriber had damn well better
> buy a lot of valuable entertainment. That's something like fees paid to
> HBO or Showtime at the time, if not more

Yeah, that's more than ESPN charged for their 27 channels at the time 
for sure.

How the fuck wouldn't a 15-year deal like this have riders like "Voom 
will provide at least 30 hours of new, original content per month" or 
"if aggregate viewing ratings fall below X for Voom content, the price 
dumps"...

Anyways, it's shit like this that makes me wish upon cable what has 
already happened to the music and bookstore industries.

-- 
smr

smr <me@shawnritchie.com> wrote:

> How the fuck wouldn't a 15-year deal like this have riders like "Voom 
> will provide at least 30 hours of new, original content per month" or 
> "if aggregate viewing ratings fall below X for Voom content, the price 
> dumps"...

> Anyways, it's shit like this that makes me wish upon cable what has 
> already happened to the music and bookstore industries.

I'm sure the history is on a Wiki somewhere but Voom was a premier service
when it started, all the channels that made it up were hi-def, which from
what I remember, was it's only claim to fame.

They didn't last long, probably just too early in the digital/HD game.

I think they went off the air for a bit and returned with a lot less
channels and less programming. That's probably when Cablevision and Dish
started (else took them over).

It just seems stupid Dish would of done a 15 year deal.

It's like someone in the 60's doing a 15 year deal with NBC because they
were broadcasting in color prime time.

I guess they took the bet that hi-def was going to be limited to tv geeks or
something.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com