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MacOwner <macowner@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://redd.it/19na4s

Yeah, appears to be.

Keep in mind it's for the upper two tiers of service, most people with the
bundled services aren't on those.

They started rolling that out on the east coast back in january, seems to
work as advertised.

I've seen some people on the lower services also say they got a slight bump
but I think it's more imagination than reality.

As far as I know, the 50mb service which doubled to 100mb with that, is
something like $90 a month on stand-alone.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:56:39 +0000 (UTC), Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> wrote:

>MacOwner <macowner@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://redd.it/19na4s
>
>Yeah, appears to be.
>
>Keep in mind it's for the upper two tiers of service, most people with the
>bundled services aren't on those.

Yeah. I got an email from them saying "Your internet speed has been
increased".  Instructions to reboot the modem.

Did that, didn't make any difference... Bahhhh

I'm bundled

In article <1mhfj8h749b6i3fji904c2lgh5otrdg2p1@4ax.com>,
 core <core-usenet@spamless.spook.homeip.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:56:39 +0000 (UTC), Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> wrote:
> 
> >MacOwner <macowner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> http://redd.it/19na4s
> >
> >Yeah, appears to be.
> >
> >Keep in mind it's for the upper two tiers of service, most people with the
> >bundled services aren't on those.
> 
> Yeah. I got an email from them saying "Your internet speed has been
> increased".  Instructions to reboot the modem.
> 
> Did that, didn't make any difference... Bahhhh
> 
> I'm bundled

thank god, it's kinda cold out there

core <core-usenet@spamless.spook.homeip.net> wrote:

> Yeah. I got an email from them saying "Your internet speed has been
> increased".  Instructions to reboot the modem.

> Did that, didn't make any difference... Bahhhh

I didn't get any email but there are a couple things I noticed with people
saying they did and didn't see any difference after rebooting.

I really don't think the older 2.0 docsis modem/routers will work. 

The other thing, if you are just on wifi, I think the max connection speed,
even with a 3.0, it's limited to 20mb for some reason. There is a way to
turn off that limiter in the admin menu, but it is on by default.

So if you are just using wifi, try using an ethernet cable and see if that
shows anything better with speedtest.net or whatever.

I can't say if there was a change or not but one machine around here I
noticed over the weekend (on hardwire) seemed to be bouncing around 25-27mb
where in the past 24mb was about the highest I've seen in the past.

Probably had more to do with the way the wind was blowing that day.

I'm on some service they don't even list anymore (like HSI) and was supposed
to be 12mb but the installer said it'll be closer to the 20-24mb range and
he was close.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:28:51 -0600, barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:

>
>
>On Thu, 7 Mar 2013, Bruce Esquibel wrote:
>
>> core <core-usenet@spamless.spook.homeip.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah. I got an email from them saying "Your internet speed has been
>>> increased".  Instructions to reboot the modem.
>>
>>> Did that, didn't make any difference... Bahhhh
>>
>> I didn't get any email but there are a couple things I noticed with people
>> saying they did and didn't see any difference after rebooting.
>>
>> I really don't think the older 2.0 docsis modem/routers will work.
>>
>> The other thing, if you are just on wifi, I think the max connection speed,
>> even with a 3.0, it's limited to 20mb for some reason. There is a way to
>> turn off that limiter in the admin menu, but it is on by default.
>>
>> So if you are just using wifi, try using an ethernet cable and see if that
>> shows anything better with speedtest.net or whatever.
>>
>> I can't say if there was a change or not but one machine around here I
>> noticed over the weekend (on hardwire) seemed to be bouncing around 25-27mb
>> where in the past 24mb was about the highest I've seen in the past.
>
>what do you run to test speeds?

http://www.speedtest.net/  

or

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:41:05 +0000 (UTC), Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> wrote:

>core <core-usenet@spamless.spook.homeip.net> wrote:
>
>> Yeah. I got an email from them saying "Your internet speed has been
>> increased".  Instructions to reboot the modem.
>
>> Did that, didn't make any difference... Bahhhh
>
>I didn't get any email but there are a couple things I noticed with people
>saying they did and didn't see any difference after rebooting.
>
>I really don't think the older 2.0 docsis modem/routers will work. 
>
>The other thing, if you are just on wifi, I think the max connection speed,
>even with a 3.0, it's limited to 20mb for some reason. There is a way to
>turn off that limiter in the admin menu, but it is on by default.

The 5 Main computers are all wired (100speed). I actually get the same speeds
on the laptops and the tablet.

I've been getting 6 up and 6 down ever since they installed cable around 4
years ago.

In article <alpine.DEB.2.02.1303071535220.3985@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz>, 
booger@nosespam.com says...
> 
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2013, barbie gee wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Mar 2013, core wrote:
> >> On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:28:51 -0600, barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2013, Bruce Esquibel wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> core <core-usenet@spamless.spook.homeip.net> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Yeah. I got an email from them saying "Your internet speed has been
> >>>>> increased".  Instructions to reboot the modem.
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Did that, didn't make any difference... Bahhhh
> >>>> 
> >>>> I didn't get any email but there are a couple things I noticed with 
> >>>> people
> >>>> saying they did and didn't see any difference after rebooting.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I really don't think the older 2.0 docsis modem/routers will work.
> >>>> 
> >>>> The other thing, if you are just on wifi, I think the max connection 
> >>>> speed,
> >>>> even with a 3.0, it's limited to 20mb for some reason. There is a way to
> >>>> turn off that limiter in the admin menu, but it is on by default.
> >>>> 
> >>>> So if you are just using wifi, try using an ethernet cable and see if 
> >>>> that
> >>>> shows anything better with speedtest.net or whatever.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I can't say if there was a change or not but one machine around here I
> >>>> noticed over the weekend (on hardwire) seemed to be bouncing around 
> >>>> 25-27mb
> >>>> where in the past 24mb was about the highest I've seen in the past.
> >>> 
> >>> what do you run to test speeds?
> >> 
> >> http://www.speedtest.net/
> >> 
> >> or
> >> 
> >> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
> >
> > hey!
> > is YER NAME "Bruce"????
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > I wondered what a Bruce would use, opposed to us regular folk.
> >
> 
> oh and hey, I'm installing a new wireless router (or "ROOTER" as the 
> cashier girl at the Best Buy called it...), but I'm betting that currently 
> my anxient modem is probably gonna bottleneck me.  I won't even post my 
> numbers here because they are too embarassing.
> 
> What can I do about getting a newer, better DSL modem?  Call my ISP, or 
> what?

Did you get it from them on lease? If so, yes, call and raise hell.

If not, go buy a new one.

-- 
smr

barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:

>what do you run to test speeds?

Find some big honkin' video on line and time how long it takes to download
then to re-upload elsewhere. Compare before and after the speed upgrade.

The speedtest sites are somewhat idealized circumstances.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:37:14 -0600, barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:

>
>
>On Thu, 7 Mar 2013, barbie gee wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2013, core wrote:
>>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:28:51 -0600, barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2013, Bruce Esquibel wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> core <core-usenet@spamless.spook.homeip.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yeah. I got an email from them saying "Your internet speed has been
>>>>>> increased".  Instructions to reboot the modem.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did that, didn't make any difference... Bahhhh
>>>>> 
>>>>> I didn't get any email but there are a couple things I noticed with 
>>>>> people
>>>>> saying they did and didn't see any difference after rebooting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I really don't think the older 2.0 docsis modem/routers will work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The other thing, if you are just on wifi, I think the max connection 
>>>>> speed,
>>>>> even with a 3.0, it's limited to 20mb for some reason. There is a way to
>>>>> turn off that limiter in the admin menu, but it is on by default.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So if you are just using wifi, try using an ethernet cable and see if 
>>>>> that
>>>>> shows anything better with speedtest.net or whatever.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can't say if there was a change or not but one machine around here I
>>>>> noticed over the weekend (on hardwire) seemed to be bouncing around 
>>>>> 25-27mb
>>>>> where in the past 24mb was about the highest I've seen in the past.
>>>> 
>>>> what do you run to test speeds?
>>> 
>>> http://www.speedtest.net/
>>> 
>>> or
>>> 
>>> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>>
>> hey!
>> is YER NAME "Bruce"????
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> I wondered what a Bruce would use, opposed to us regular folk.
>>
>
>oh and hey, I'm installing a new wireless router (or "ROOTER" as the 
>cashier girl at the Best Buy called it...), but I'm betting that currently 
>my anxient modem is probably gonna bottleneck me.  I won't even post my 
>numbers here because they are too embarassing.
>
>What can I do about getting a newer, better DSL modem?  Call my ISP, or 
>what?

I've got a couple in the basement you can have.

barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:

> hey!
> is YER NAME "Bruce"????

> ;-)

> I wondered what a Bruce would use, opposed to us regular folk.


The same thing really, speedtest.net will give results that are close enough
for government work. 

To roll your own, as Geoff brought up, you would have to download and
upload a bit and average it out. It's not really possible to come up with an
absolute value either way and speedtest is used by enough people for
a somewhat accurate reading.

I mean if you are paying for 6mb service and consistantly get readings
around 5.8mb, it's in the normal ballpark catagory. If you consistantly get
readings like 2.5mb, you probably have a problem.

As long as it comes close to getting what you are paying for, knowing the
exact value is meaningless.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

In article <alpine.DEB.2.02.1303080818120.29296@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz>,
 barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Mar 2013, Bruce Esquibel wrote:
> 
> > barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> hey!
> >> is YER NAME "Bruce"????
> >
> >> ;-)
> >
> >> I wondered what a Bruce would use, opposed to us regular folk.
> >
> >
> > The same thing really, speedtest.net will give results that are close enough
> > for government work.
> >
> > To roll your own, as Geoff brought up, you would have to download and
> > upload a bit and average it out. It's not really possible to come up with an
> > absolute value either way and speedtest is used by enough people for
> > a somewhat accurate reading.
> >
> > I mean if you are paying for 6mb service and consistantly get readings
> > around 5.8mb, it's in the normal ballpark catagory. If you consistantly get
> > readings like 2.5mb, you probably have a problem.
> >
> > As long as it comes close to getting what you are paying for, knowing the
> > exact value is meaningless.
> 
> So what should I be paying for 2.5mb speeds, on DSL?

my ATT was 32 bucks a month.

barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:

> So what should I be paying for 2.5mb speeds, on DSL?

Well speedtest.net isn't going to help with that unless you are paying for
6mb service. In that case you can request being reduced to 3meg service.

But if you are paying for 3 and getting 2.5mb, sucks to be you. They
consider that acceptable.

As far costs, use a dartboard, they'll charge what you'll pay.

General rule of thumb, nearly all of them have the initial 14.95 to 19.95
for the first six months or year, then back to "the normal rate", which
before you ask, doesn't exist.

At that point you can usually threaten to leave which then they'll extend
the offer or kick it up a few bucks. Then in six months or a year, wash,
rinse and repeat.

A freind of mine on the at&t dsl (not the fake uverse) is paying $24.95 for
the 3.0mb service (he can't get 6mb). This was after the 12 months of 14.95
then it jumping to $34.95. One phone call later, they cut 10 bucks off.

For reference, another friend of mine who lives probably closer to the
Wisconsin boarder than downtown (meaning no clue on the taxes), got this
quote from Comcast for internet only service, no video, no phone...

$19.99 for 6 months 3Mbps  then $39.99

$29.99 for 6 months  20Mbps then $44.99

Several more faster and costly plans...

$7/mo for the modem...or you can supply your own.

No cancellation penalty after 6 months.

This was from this past january, so somewhat fresh.

The $45 for the 20mb service is somewhat of a bargain because I think that
is around what at&t charges for the 6mb dsl/fake uverse service.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> wrote:
>barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:

>>So what should I be paying for 2.5mb speeds, on DSL?

>Well speedtest.net isn't going to help with that unless you are paying for
>6mb service. In that case you can request being reduced to 3meg service.

>But if you are paying for 3 and getting 2.5mb, sucks to be you. They
>consider that acceptable.

>As far costs, use a dartboard, they'll charge what you'll pay.

>General rule of thumb, nearly all of them have the initial 14.95 to 19.95
>for the first six months or year, then back to "the normal rate", which
>before you ask, doesn't exist.

>At that point you can usually threaten to leave which then they'll extend
>the offer or kick it up a few bucks. Then in six months or a year, wash,
>rinse and repeat.

>A freind of mine on the at&t dsl (not the fake uverse) is paying $24.95 for
>the 3.0mb service (he can't get 6mb). This was after the 12 months of 14.95
>then it jumping to $34.95. One phone call later, they cut 10 bucks off.

barb, just so you know, what Bruce and I have called fake U-verse has
to do with AT&T refusing to provision DSL to new subscribers, except as
U-verse, in certain U-verse areas in which they haven't provisioned any
television service. That's what I've got.

It's still DSL, but it's done in a completely different way to it didn't
work with the DSL modem I'd already bought from them.

In article <khfon8$vuk$1@news.albasani.net>,
 "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

> Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> wrote:
> >barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:
> 
> >>So what should I be paying for 2.5mb speeds, on DSL?
> 
> >Well speedtest.net isn't going to help with that unless you are paying for
> >6mb service. In that case you can request being reduced to 3meg service.
> 
> >But if you are paying for 3 and getting 2.5mb, sucks to be you. They
> >consider that acceptable.
> 
> >As far costs, use a dartboard, they'll charge what you'll pay.
> 
> >General rule of thumb, nearly all of them have the initial 14.95 to 19.95
> >for the first six months or year, then back to "the normal rate", which
> >before you ask, doesn't exist.
> 
> >At that point you can usually threaten to leave which then they'll extend
> >the offer or kick it up a few bucks. Then in six months or a year, wash,
> >rinse and repeat.
> 
> >A freind of mine on the at&t dsl (not the fake uverse) is paying $24.95 for
> >the 3.0mb service (he can't get 6mb). This was after the 12 months of 14.95
> >then it jumping to $34.95. One phone call later, they cut 10 bucks off.
> 
> barb, just so you know, what Bruce and I have called fake U-verse has
> to do with AT&T refusing to provision DSL to new subscribers, except as
> U-verse, in certain U-verse areas in which they haven't provisioned any
> television service. That's what I've got.
> 
> It's still DSL, but it's done in a completely different way to it didn't
> work with the DSL modem I'd already bought from them.

did you just cock block bruce?

"bruce and I"

wtf?

MacOwner <macowner@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <khfon8$vuk$1@news.albasani.net>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> 
>> Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> wrote:
>> >barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >>So what should I be paying for 2.5mb speeds, on DSL?
>> 
>> >Well speedtest.net isn't going to help with that unless you are paying for
>> >6mb service. In that case you can request being reduced to 3meg service.
>> 
>> >But if you are paying for 3 and getting 2.5mb, sucks to be you. They
>> >consider that acceptable.
>> 
>> >As far costs, use a dartboard, they'll charge what you'll pay.
>> 
>> >General rule of thumb, nearly all of them have the initial 14.95 to 19.95
>> >for the first six months or year, then back to "the normal rate", which
>> >before you ask, doesn't exist.
>> 
>> >At that point you can usually threaten to leave which then they'll extend
>> >the offer or kick it up a few bucks. Then in six months or a year, wash,
>> >rinse and repeat.
>> 
>> >A freind of mine on the at&t dsl (not the fake uverse) is paying $24.95 for
>> >the 3.0mb service (he can't get 6mb). This was after the 12 months of 14.95
>> >then it jumping to $34.95. One phone call later, they cut 10 bucks off.
>> 
>> barb, just so you know, what Bruce and I have called fake U-verse has
>> to do with AT&T refusing to provision DSL to new subscribers, except as
>> U-verse, in certain U-verse areas in which they haven't provisioned any
>> television service. That's what I've got.
>> 
>> It's still DSL, but it's done in a completely different way to it didn't
>> work with the DSL modem I'd already bought from them.
> 
> did you just cock block bruce?
> 
> "bruce and I"
> 
> wtf?

haha

I've got the blow molded kid's swimming pool sized uverse data only modem. 
It's 12Mb down (for real too) for $29.95 a month for 6 months, then it 
jumps up a bit.

it's pretty solid, for a consumer type service. If I had complaints about 
it when I got it, I forgot them already.