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In message <6h611v$fgv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> - timhiggins@mediaone.netThu, 16
Apr 1998 17:34:38 -0600 writes:
:>
:>Hi Folks,
:>
:>Having been confused by conflicting information I've seen on sharing
:>cable modems, I thought it would be helpful to share what I learned
:>in getting mine set up.
:>
:>Go to http://people.ne.mediaone.net/timhiggins/projects.htm
:>
:>and click on the "Sharing Cable Modems link"
:>
:>Comments, corrections, useful information welcome.
:>
:>Have fun,
:>Tim Higgins
:>timhiggins@mediaone.net
:>
:>-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
:>http://www.dejanews.com/   Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading

Try using Wingate and view my a good tutorial on my webserver at
www.exodussystems.on.ca/~wingate.


***************************************
Dan Twomey
dtwomey@exodussystems.on.ca

Exodus Systems
1-905-728-8529
***************************************

I was just told last night that @HOME is shutting off folks who run WINGATE.
There is some security issue, the person from @HOME tech support didn't go
into details, but I'm sure that it's folks who don't have all of their
setting correct.



Dan Twomey wrote in message <6i8l02$1vh$2@news.durham.net>...
>In message <6h611v$fgv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> - timhiggins@mediaone.netThu,
16
>Apr 1998 17:34:38 -0600 writes:
>:>
>:>Hi Folks,
>:>
>:>Having been confused by conflicting information I've seen on sharing
>:>cable modems, I thought it would be helpful to share what I learned
>:>in getting mine set up.
>:>
>:>Go to http://people.ne.mediaone.net/timhiggins/projects.htm
>:>
>:>and click on the "Sharing Cable Modems link"
>:>
>:>Comments, corrections, useful information welcome.
>:>
>:>Have fun,
>:>Tim Higgins
>:>timhiggins@mediaone.net
>:>
>:>-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
>:>http://www.dejanews.com/   Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
>
>Try using Wingate and view my a good tutorial on my webserver at
>www.exodussystems.on.ca/~wingate.
>
>
>***************************************
>Dan Twomey
>dtwomey@exodussystems.on.ca
>
>Exodus Systems
>1-905-728-8529
>***************************************
>

"Shutting off":  probably only unsecured Wingates causing trouble. 
(Though @Home reps would be better sources of info on that.)

When, last April 10, Dan announced the tutorial on
www.exodussystems.on.ca/~wingate , I had a quick look and tried a simple
"Find" for "security" on the main long page, and didn't see a hit. 
Didn't want to say anything at the time without a closer look.  But,
Dan, hope you correct this if needed -- be sure to tell them not to use
the default settings!  

Thanks for the effort anyway -- will study when get around to it, and
I'm sure many others will appreciate it.

   Mike

Kevin Flanagan wrote:
> 
> I was just told last night that @HOME is shutting off folks who run WINGATE.
> There is some security issue, the person from @HOME tech support didn't go
> into details, but I'm sure that it's folks who don't have all of their
> setting correct.
> 
> Dan Twomey wrote in message <6i8l02$1vh$2@news.durham.net>...
> >In message <6h611v$fgv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> - timhiggins@mediaone.netThu,
> 16
> >Apr 1998 17:34:38 -0600 writes:
> >:>
> >:>Hi Folks,
> >:>
> >:>Having been confused by conflicting information I've seen on sharing
> >:>cable modems, I thought it would be helpful to share what I learned
> >:>in getting mine set up.
> >:>
> >:>Go to http://people.ne.mediaone.net/timhiggins/projects.htm
> >:>
> >:>and click on the "Sharing Cable Modems link"
> >:>
> >:>Comments, corrections, useful information welcome.
> >:>
> >:>Have fun,
> >:>Tim Higgins
> >:>timhiggins@mediaone.net
> >:>
> >:>-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
> >:>http://www.dejanews.com/   Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
> >
> >Try using Wingate and view my a good tutorial on my webserver at
> >www.exodussystems.on.ca/~wingate.
> >
> >
> >***************************************
> >Dan Twomey
> >dtwomey@exodussystems.on.ca
> >
> >Exodus Systems
> >1-905-728-8529
> >***************************************
> >

-- 
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Michael J. Haggerty           zap-mkeh@rogers.wave.ca-zap
London, Ont., Canada  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/4041/

Then why not run NAT32 for win 95 or nt, or NAT1000 for nt?  They are
alot easier to use and give better results anyway.

BuddyW wrote:
> 
> The question I have is _how_do_they_know_  you are running Wingate in
> the first place?  I thought proxies like Wingate, Winproxy and IP
> translation schemes were supposed to be "invisible" to the outside
> network , i.e., they are visible only to the private network?
> 
> Is this not true?
> 
> BuddyWh
> 
> On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:24:59 -0500, "Kevin Flanagan"
> <kflanagan@home.com> wrote:
> 
> >I was just told last night that @HOME is shutting off folks who run WINGATE.
> >There is some security issue, the person from @HOME tech support didn't go
> >into details, but I'm sure that it's folks who don't have all of their
> >setting correct.
> >
> >
> >
> >Dan Twomey wrote in message <6i8l02$1vh$2@news.durham.net>...
> >>In message <6h611v$fgv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> - timhiggins@mediaone.netThu,
> >16
> >>Apr 1998 17:34:38 -0600 writes:
> >>:>
> >>:>Hi Folks,
> >>:>
> >>:>Having been confused by conflicting information I've seen on sharing
> >>:>cable modems, I thought it would be helpful to share what I learned
> >>:>in getting mine set up.
> >>:>
> >>:>Go to http://people.ne.mediaone.net/timhiggins/projects.htm
> >>:>
> >>:>and click on the "Sharing Cable Modems link"
> >>:>
> >>:>Comments, corrections, useful information welcome.
> >>:>
> >>:>Have fun,
> >>:>Tim Higgins
> >>:>timhiggins@mediaone.net
> >>:>
> >>:>-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
> >>:>http://www.dejanews.com/   Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
> >>
> >>Try using Wingate and view my a good tutorial on my webserver at
> >>www.exodussystems.on.ca/~wingate.
> >>
> >>
> >>***************************************
> >>Dan Twomey
> >>dtwomey@exodussystems.on.ca
> >>
> >>Exodus Systems
> >>1-905-728-8529
> >>***************************************
> >>
> >
> 
> Buddy Wheeler
> Remove the "*" for my correct e-mail address!

I had Wingate for a while, but had some problems getting ICQ to work
with it.  Anyway, my roommate found a program called NAT1000 at
http://www.nevod.com.  Once this program is in place there is NO proxy
server parameters or any confusing configuration issues.  Simply install
NAT1000 on the station connected to the cable modem.  IT will replace
the binding for the NIC>TCP\IP listing in Network Properties.  Then set
up the rest of the machines on the network to you own little intranet
and voila'..you are all on-line.  As far as I can tell, even @home can't
tell your sharing..not that it's any of their business.  Since they do
not currently offer multiple IP addresses why should they care.

Ps.  To give you an idea how cool this company it, Nevod that is.  I was
having some difficulty and I e-mail their tech support.  Within 15-20
minutes they called me, on a Saturday afternoon, and stepped me through
getting things setup.  And I only have there trial copy!  We each
average 200-600BPS download rates.  A couple of days ago I downloaded a
54MB file in under a minute!

Pps. We are using some very inexpensive network cards I found at Fry's
Electronics.  They are $30 a piece and support both 10 and 100Base
networks.  
 Company: Bay Networks, Inc.
    Make: Netgear
   Model: FA310tx
   Speed: 10/100 MPS (Auto switching)
Bus Type: PCI
Warranty: Lifetime
 Website: http://netgear.baynetworks.com/home

Mike Haggerty wrote:
> 
> "Shutting off":  probably only unsecured Wingates causing trouble.
> (Though @Home reps would be better sources of info on that.)
> 
> When, last April 10, Dan announced the tutorial on
> www.exodussystems.on.ca/~wingate , I had a quick look and tried a simple
> "Find" for "security" on the main long page, and didn't see a hit.
> Didn't want to say anything at the time without a closer look.  But,
> Dan, hope you correct this if needed -- be sure to tell them not to use
> the default settings!
> 
> Thanks for the effort anyway -- will study when get around to it, and
> I'm sure many others will appreciate it.
> 
>    Mike
> 
> Kevin Flanagan wrote:
> >
> > I was just told last night that @HOME is shutting off folks who run WINGATE.
> > There is some security issue, the person from @HOME tech support didn't go
> > into details, but I'm sure that it's folks who don't have all of their
> > setting correct.
> >
> > Dan Twomey wrote in message <6i8l02$1vh$2@news.durham.net>...
> > >In message <6h611v$fgv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> - timhiggins@mediaone.netThu,
> > 16
> > >Apr 1998 17:34:38 -0600 writes:
> > >:>
> > >:>Hi Folks,
> > >:>
> > >:>Having been confused by conflicting information I've seen on sharing
> > >:>cable modems, I thought it would be helpful to share what I learned
> > >:>in getting mine set up.
> > >:>
> > >:>Go to http://people.ne.mediaone.net/timhiggins/projects.htm
> > >:>
> > >:>and click on the "Sharing Cable Modems link"
> > >:>
> > >:>Comments, corrections, useful information welcome.
> > >:>
> > >:>Have fun,
> > >:>Tim Higgins
> > >:>timhiggins@mediaone.net
> > >:>
> > >:>-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
> > >:>http://www.dejanews.com/   Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
> > >
> > >Try using Wingate and view my a good tutorial on my webserver at
> > >www.exodussystems.on.ca/~wingate.
> > >
> > >
> > >***************************************
> > >Dan Twomey
> > >dtwomey@exodussystems.on.ca
> > >
> > >Exodus Systems
> > >1-905-728-8529
> > >***************************************
> > >
> 
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Michael J. Haggerty           zap-mkeh@rogers.wave.ca-zap
> London, Ont., Canada  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/4041/

This is easy....Telnet to a port on a given machine and it will report
back Wingate>. At this point you can actually telnet out and create all
kinds of havoc on an irc channel. Why would someone do this you ask?
Well it looks as if though the attack came from that machine. There
are actually easier ways to find a wingate machine. You can right
the correct script files and query given ports...(21,80,23.....)
Another way to find Wingate machines would be to download a
Wingate scanner which can look at an entire subnet in about 10-12
minutes depending on the time out value you set for it. Wingate is not
actually a "bad" program if it is setup correctly. By disabling telnet and
ftp capabilites you shouldn't have much trouble with security. It might also
help to close smtp. A lot of people use Wingate "right out of the box"
without configuring it correctly and thats were the problems start.
Wingate on a cable modem is great because it allows a "wannabe" to create
ping floods with great speed due to the large bandwith of the modem. These
are just things that I have heard of course. This
has become a large problems with the likes of Efnet and other irc
operators.

AnArChYx




BuddyW wrote in message <354f295f.6019465@news.supernews.com>...
>The question I have is _how_do_they_know_  you are running Wingate in
>the first place?  I thought proxies like Wingate, Winproxy and IP
>translation schemes were supposed to be "invisible" to the outside
>network , i.e., they are visible only to the private network?
>
>Is this not true?
>
>BuddyWh
>
>On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:24:59 -0500, "Kevin Flanagan"
><kflanagan@home.com> wrote:
>
>>I was just told last night that @HOME is shutting off folks who run
WINGATE.
>>There is some security issue, the person from @HOME tech support didn't go
>>into details, but I'm sure that it's folks who don't have all of their
>>setting correct.
>>
>>
>>
>>Dan Twomey wrote in message <6i8l02$1vh$2@news.durham.net>...
>>>In message <6h611v$fgv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> -
timhiggins@mediaone.netThu,
>>16
>>>Apr 1998 17:34:38 -0600 writes:
>>>:>
>>>:>Hi Folks,
>>>:>
>>>:>Having been confused by conflicting information I've seen on sharing
>>>:>cable modems, I thought it would be helpful to share what I learned
>>>:>in getting mine set up.
>>>:>
>>>:>Go to http://people.ne.mediaone.net/timhiggins/projects.htm
>>>:>
>>>:>and click on the "Sharing Cable Modems link"
>>>:>
>>>:>Comments, corrections, useful information welcome.
>>>:>
>>>:>Have fun,
>>>:>Tim Higgins
>>>:>timhiggins@mediaone.net
>>>:>
>>>:>-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
>>>:>http://www.dejanews.com/   Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
>>>
>>>Try using Wingate and view my a good tutorial on my webserver at
>>>www.exodussystems.on.ca/~wingate.
>>>
>>>
>>>***************************************
>>>Dan Twomey
>>>dtwomey@exodussystems.on.ca
>>>
>>>Exodus Systems
>>>1-905-728-8529
>>>***************************************
>>>
>>
>
>Buddy Wheeler
>Remove the "*" for my correct e-mail address!