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9 total messages Started by Andrei Tchepurnyh Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:00
Frustration-Java-Learning
#197
Author: Andrei Tchepurnyh
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:00
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Hi. I am a student at UNSW/Sydney and I am doing Java course. (I don't
have any previous experience in programming). Our lecturer never
programmed in Java and had some programming experience with some
language long time ago (sounds unbelievable but it is unfortunately
truth :-(  As a textbook we are using "Java software solutions"
-"Foundation of Program Design" by John Lewis and William Loftus. I
found it is difficult to understand and because I do not have a quality
lecture I am stuck with my assignment (Vigenere cipher ). Can anybody
recommend a good Java book with examples (that is how I only can
understand) and very detailed explanations (line by line - that is my
dream :-). I am on my week 6 only, so I need something from start and no
programing experience assumed.

Thanks in advance
Andrei.

--
A little about me.
I am a person and this is a little about me.
I like to do things, and some of these things are even fun.
When I'm not doing things, I like to sit.
Sitting is fun sometimes.
FAQ: Re: Frustration-Java-Learning
#196
Author: Peter van der Linden
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 00:00
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Andrei -- it takes *significant* effort to learn your first programming
language.  You are wise to ask about other books.   A lot of people like
the Deitel and Deitel book for people who are learning Java as their
first language.

Please see the Java FAQ site for plenty of info on this!

The Java FAQ is at   
                        http://www.afu.com

Might be worth bookmarking it, or looking thru it for other info.
>Hi. I am a student at UNSW/Sydney and I am doing Java course. (I don't
>have any previous experience in programming). Our lecturer never
>programmed in Java and had some programming experience with some
>language long time ago (sounds unbelievable but it is unfortunately
>truth :-(  As a textbook we are using "Java software solutions"
Re: Frustration-Java-Learning
#198
Author: dcasteel
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:00
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I got a lot out of SAMS "Teach yourself Java in 21 Days"

On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 05:57:42 +1000, Andrei Tchepurnyh <rus@fl.net.au>
wrote:

>Hi. I am a student at UNSW/Sydney and I am doing Java course. (I don't
>have any previous experience in programming). Our lecturer never
>programmed in Java and had some programming experience with some
>language long time ago (sounds unbelievable but it is unfortunately
>truth :-(  As a textbook we are using "Java software solutions"
>-"Foundation of Program Design" by John Lewis and William Loftus. I
>found it is difficult to understand and because I do not have a quality
>lecture I am stuck with my assignment (Vigenere cipher ). Can anybody
>recommend a good Java book with examples (that is how I only can
>understand) and very detailed explanations (line by line - that is my
>dream :-). I am on my week 6 only, so I need something from start and no
>programing experience assumed.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Andrei.
>
>--
>A little about me.
>I am a person and this is a little about me.
>I like to do things, and some of these things are even fun.
>When I'm not doing things, I like to sit.
>Sitting is fun sometimes.
>
>
Re: Frustration-Java-Learning
#199
Author: Cat
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:00
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I started completely from scratch with "sams teach yourself java2 in 24
hours". In retrospect that was a little basic and doesn't give you a
complete explanation of the language etc.
I can highly recommend "Java how to program,Third edition,Deitel & Deitel"
it's probably exactly what you are looking for and you can get an
interactive classroom cd.
--
Cat

email me at
cat@ratrobot.com

My website
Ratrobot.
Articles that challenge your ideas about yourself and the world you live in.
www.ratrobot.com
"Andrei Tchepurnyh" <rus@fl.net.au> wrote in message
news:38E8F7B6.2EB82142@fl.net.au...
> Hi. I am a student at UNSW/Sydney and I am doing Java course. (I don't
> have any previous experience in programming). Our lecturer never
> programmed in Java and had some programming experience with some
> language long time ago (sounds unbelievable but it is unfortunately
> truth :-(  As a textbook we are using "Java software solutions"
> -"Foundation of Program Design" by John Lewis and William Loftus. I
> found it is difficult to understand and because I do not have a quality
> lecture I am stuck with my assignment (Vigenere cipher ). Can anybody
> recommend a good Java book with examples (that is how I only can
> understand) and very detailed explanations (line by line - that is my
> dream :-). I am on my week 6 only, so I need something from start and no
> programing experience assumed.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Andrei.
>
> --
> A little about me.
> I am a person and this is a little about me.
> I like to do things, and some of these things are even fun.
> When I'm not doing things, I like to sit.
> Sitting is fun sometimes.
>
>
Re: Frustration-Java-Learning
#200
Author: Andrei Tchepurnyh
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:00
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Cat wrote:

> I started completely from scratch with "sams teach yourself java2 in 24
> hours". In retrospect that was a little basic and doesn't give you a
> complete explanation of the language etc.
> I can highly recommend "Java how to program,Third edition,Deitel & Deitel"
> it's probably exactly what you are looking for and you can get an
> interactive classroom cd.
> --
> Cat
>
> email me at
> cat@ratrobot.com
>
> My website
> Ratrobot.
> Articles that challenge your ideas about yourself and the world you live in.
> www.ratrobot.com
> "Andrei Tchepurnyh" <rus@fl.net.au> wrote in message
> news:38E8F7B6.2EB82142@fl.net.au...
> > Hi. I am a student at UNSW/Sydney and I am doing Java course. (I don't
> > have any previous experience in programming). Our lecturer never
> > programmed in Java and had some programming experience with some
> > language long time ago (sounds unbelievable but it is unfortunately
> > truth :-(  As a textbook we are using "Java software solutions"
> > -"Foundation of Program Design" by John Lewis and William Loftus. I
> > found it is difficult to understand and because I do not have a quality
> > lecture I am stuck with my assignment (Vigenere cipher ). Can anybody
> > recommend a good Java book with examples (that is how I only can
> > understand) and very detailed explanations (line by line - that is my
> > dream :-). I am on my week 6 only, so I need something from start and no
> > programing experience assumed.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Andrei.
> >
> > --
> > A little about me.
> > I am a person and this is a little about me.
> > I like to do things, and some of these things are even fun.
> > When I'm not doing things, I like to sit.
> > Sitting is fun sometimes.
> >
> >

Thank you guy's for help. It looks like I have found what I wanted. I have
bought "Beginning Java2" by Ivor Horton and start reading. It is clear and even
interesting so far. :-)

Thanks again.
Regards Andrei.
Re: Frustration-Java-Learning
#201
Author: Luke
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 00:00
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Hi,

I am studying a beginners java course at Charles Sturt University.
We are using the book: Java: First Contact, Garside and Mariani,
Course Technology (1998)

I can recommend this book.
I have read many books on programming, this one is excellent.

L.

"Andrei Tchepurnyh" <rus@fl.net.au> wrote in message
news:38E8F7B6.2EB82142@fl.net.au...
> Hi. I am a student at UNSW/Sydney and I am doing Java course. (I
don't
> have any previous experience in programming). Our lecturer never
> programmed in Java and had some programming experience with some
> language long time ago (sounds unbelievable but it is unfortunately
> truth :-(  As a textbook we are using "Java software solutions"
> -"Foundation of Program Design" by John Lewis and William Loftus. I
> found it is difficult to understand and because I do not have a
quality
> lecture I am stuck with my assignment (Vigenere cipher ). Can
anybody
> recommend a good Java book with examples (that is how I only can
> understand) and very detailed explanations (line by line - that is
my
> dream :-). I am on my week 6 only, so I need something from start
and no
> programing experience assumed.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Andrei.
>
> --
> A little about me.
> I am a person and this is a little about me.
> I like to do things, and some of these things are even fun.
> When I'm not doing things, I like to sit.
> Sitting is fun sometimes.
>
>
Re: Frustration-Java-Learning
#202
Author: Senators
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 00:00
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I am doing java at QUT and our text book is JAVA a framework for programming
and problem solving by Kenneth A. Lambert and Martin Osborne
It has examples etc and is pretty easy to understand.


Andrei Tchepurnyh <rus@fl.net.au> wrote in message
news:38E8F7B6.2EB82142@fl.net.au...
> Hi. I am a student at UNSW/Sydney and I am doing Java course. (I don't
> have any previous experience in programming). Our lecturer never
> programmed in Java and had some programming experience with some
> language long time ago (sounds unbelievable but it is unfortunately
> truth :-(  As a textbook we are using "Java software solutions"
> -"Foundation of Program Design" by John Lewis and William Loftus. I
> found it is difficult to understand and because I do not have a quality
> lecture I am stuck with my assignment (Vigenere cipher ). Can anybody
> recommend a good Java book with examples (that is how I only can
> understand) and very detailed explanations (line by line - that is my
> dream :-). I am on my week 6 only, so I need something from start and no
> programing experience assumed.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Andrei.
>
> --
> A little about me.
> I am a person and this is a little about me.
> I like to do things, and some of these things are even fun.
> When I'm not doing things, I like to sit.
> Sitting is fun sometimes.
>
>
Re: Frustration-Java-Learning
#203
Author: Mike
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 00:00
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Try object-oriented programming with java an introduction by David j.
barnes. I am a student a Kent uni in the uk and this guy is my lecturer, I
am not plugging this book just because of that. It is a really great book
for beginners, but will also teach u the advanced stuff in a simple easy to
understand way



Andrei Tchepurnyh <rus@fl.net.au> wrote in message
news:38E8F7B6.2EB82142@fl.net.au...
> Hi. I am a student at UNSW/Sydney and I am doing Java course. (I don't
> have any previous experience in programming). Our lecturer never
> programmed in Java and had some programming experience with some
> language long time ago (sounds unbelievable but it is unfortunately
> truth :-(  As a textbook we are using "Java software solutions"
> -"Foundation of Program Design" by John Lewis and William Loftus. I
> found it is difficult to understand and because I do not have a quality
> lecture I am stuck with my assignment (Vigenere cipher ). Can anybody
> recommend a good Java book with examples (that is how I only can
> understand) and very detailed explanations (line by line - that is my
> dream :-). I am on my week 6 only, so I need something from start and no
> programing experience assumed.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Andrei.
>
> --
> A little about me.
> I am a person and this is a little about me.
> I like to do things, and some of these things are even fun.
> When I'm not doing things, I like to sit.
> Sitting is fun sometimes.
>
>
Re: Frustration-Java-Learning
#204
Author: Jonathon
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:00
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I know exactly how you feel, that book could be better written for teh
newew students. Im semi lucky that i know a bit! ;)
Personally the best book I have used so far to date (fomr a beginners POV
is "An INtroduction to CS & Programming" By Walter Savitch

Cheers
Batesy
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