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stanley@skyking.oce.orst.edu writes:
   >Then my boss isn't really in charge of the machines at my site, because he
   >has to go through one of the sysadmins to make a configuration change?

   There is a bit of a difference between your boss, who is in charge of
   the system admins who make the changes, and me, who is in charge of
   nobody at the site who maintains my DNS records. Unless you think that
   having someone keep an MX record for you somehow makes you in charge of
   the person doing it.

Your attitude is insulting to the many sysadmins out there who
voluntarily support domains requiring MX support.  I used to have an
open offer to provide nameservice and MX connectivity to absolutely
any entity anywhere, when I was [ph]ostmaster@cis.ohio-state.edu.
Anyone who ran such a domain and needed updates simply mailed me the
update, and I didn't do anything more than check it quickly for
outright errors so my nameservers wouldn't choke on it.  Installation
of the updates was usually done within the day.

It is singularly inappropriate for you to be accusing others of taking
the low road of personal insult when you are quite possibly doing more
of the same, obtusely and without direct reference, than the rest of
the participants in this pointless argument combined.

Yes, when you are the domain contact of an MX-supported domain, you
_are_ in charge of the zone file for your domain, and the sysadmin who
actually manages the nameservers that support your domain has a quite
obvious and clear responsibility to be responsive to your needs for
updates.  If they weren't prepared for that responsibility, they
wouldn't have offered to be provide nameservice.

If you're going to be insulting, you could at least have the common
decency to provide counterexamples, situations where nameserver admins
have deliberately, or even unknowingly, made life difficult for
MX-supported domains by _not_ being responsive to such needs.

--karl,
at one time, technical and zone
contact for some 40 domains, most
of which I registered myself

In article <BzBBMJ.4xp.2@cs.cmu.edu> Karl_Kleinpaste@cs.cmu.edu writes:
>Your attitude is insulting to the many sysadmins out there who
>voluntarily support domains requiring MX support.

You may indeed be a very nice person, but I don't see why that should
make everyone want to be forced to rely on the kindness of strangers.

>I used to have an
>open offer to provide nameservice and MX connectivity to absolutely
>any entity anywhere, when I was [ph]ostmaster@cis.ohio-state.edu.

I trust some other kind stranger has taken over the task...

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us

>>Karl wrote:
>>I used to have an
>>open offer to provide nameservice and MX connectivity to absolutely
>>any entity anywhere, when I was [ph]ostmaster@cis.ohio-state.edu.
>
> Les replied:
>I trust some other kind stranger has taken over the task...

Some people think I'm kind.  John Mudd took over name server
maintenance when Karl left here, and I took over when John left a
while back.  The only thing that changed was the names behind the
[ph]ostmaster aliases, so to speak.  We still freely provide
nameservice and MX stuff to anyone that asks.

--- Steve