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WARNING: SilverLining
#1750
Author: Jon Mandel
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 21:39
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WARNING

Do not use LaCie's SilverLining software unless you fully 
intend to reformat the drive you select.  This software will 
write to your SCSI drive without obtaining verification from 
you first.

My particular situation was as follows.  I have a 1080M drive 
partitioned and formatted under Win95 into 2 520M partitions. 
I mounted it on a Mac in order to burn a CD from one of the 
partitions.  At one point we were moving things from drive to 
drive to prepare for the burn.  We were considering 
reformatting my drive as an HFS volume, so we launched 
SilverLining.  We decided against reformatting after we looked 
at the SilverLining drive configuration dialog.  We cancelled 
out.  When I attempted to remount my drive on either system, 
my partition information was gone.

To reiterate: SilverLining wrote to my drive *before* I 
approved any action.  I never moved into or beyond the format 
confirmation dialog.  Be careful.  This software is dangerous.

-Jon
Re: WARNING: SilverLining
#1751
Author: M Spigelman
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 16:34
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In article <427uib$qus@sun.sirius.com>, Jon Mandel <mandel@sirius.com> wrote:

> WARNING
> 
> Do not use LaCie's SilverLining software unless you fully 
> intend to reformat the drive you select.  This software will 
> write to your SCSI drive without obtaining verification from 
> you first.
> 
> My particular situation was as follows.  I have a 1080M drive 
> partitioned and formatted under Win95 into 2 520M partitions. 
> I mounted it on a Mac in order to burn a CD from one of the 
> partitions.  At one point we were moving things from drive to 
> drive to prepare for the burn.  We were considering 
> reformatting my drive as an HFS volume, so we launched 
> SilverLining.  We decided against reformatting after we looked 
> at the SilverLining drive configuration dialog.  We cancelled 
> out.  When I attempted to remount my drive on either system, 
> my partition information was gone.
> 
> To reiterate: SilverLining wrote to my drive *before* I 
> approved any action.  I never moved into or beyond the format 
> confirmation dialog.  Be careful.  This software is dangerous.
> 
> -Jon

Hello!
Were you using version 5.6.1? You did not mention this in your post. I
have been using this version, and have not had any problems. If you need
an update, there is a WWW site for LaCie....and suggest you get it, if you
are so inclined.

Cheers.
Re: WARNING: SilverLining
#1752
Author: Larry Knight
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 11:35
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In article <427uib$qus@sun.sirius.com>, Jon Mandel <mandel@sirius.com> wrote:

> WARNING
> 
> Do not use LaCie's SilverLining software unless you fully 
> intend to reformat the drive you select.  This software will 
> write to your SCSI drive without obtaining verification from 
> you first.
> At one point we were moving things from drive to 
> drive to prepare for the burn.  We were considering 
> reformatting my drive as an HFS volume, so we launched 
> SilverLining.  We decided against reformatting after we looked 
> at the SilverLining drive configuration dialog.  We cancelled 
> out.  When I attempted to remount my drive on either system, 
> my partition information was gone.
> 
> To reiterate: SilverLining wrote to my drive *before* I 
> approved any action.  I never moved into or beyond the format 
> confirmation dialog.  Be careful.  This software is dangerous.
> 
> -Jon

Jon, I too have had problems with Silverlining.  I have version 5.6.3,
which is the very latest version, obtained by updater from LaCie's Web
site. My problem with Silverlining has to do with Virtual Memory, which,
in short, does not always work with Silverlining!!

I have a Quantum 730, running on a PowerMac 6100, which I formatted into
three equally sized Mac partitions.Immediately thereafter, I installed
from virgin system floppies a clean 7.5.1 system onto one of the
partitions.  I then booted from this partition with the clean system. 
Then, I discovered the following: (keep in mind that the system is a super
clean freshly installed version) - when VM is set to a LARGE value (in my
case about 80 MB, the system reliably crashes after the last INIT or CDEV
loads.  In some cases, if VM is set to a lower value (RAM +1MB), VM might
work or not, depending upon how many extensions are loaded!!!  The system
runs fine without VM

I later tried the same experiment with System 7.1.2, and System 7.5 with
the same results.  Also, the results were the same when I formatted with
an earlier version of Silverlining (5.6).  La Cie Tech support claimed
they were not aware of the problem in version 5.6, and referred me to
their web site, where I obtained the update to 5.6.3, which has the same
flaw.

Why do I suspect Silverlining? I do NOT experience this problem when
formatting and initializing with FWB Primer or SCSI Director!!! I have
performed this experiment at least four times, and the result is the same
each time - Silverlining prevents VM from running reliably each time,
while FWB and SCSI Director allow it to operate normally.

I would be interested to know if anyone else has experienced this
problem.  Again the pertinent data: Silverlining 5.6.3, PowerMac 6100/60,
CLEAN System 7.1.2, 7.5, or 7.5.1, Quantum 730 drive, initialized into
three partitions.  Set VM to maximum allowed (minus 1 or 2 MB for
safety).  System crashes EVERY time after INITs and CDEVs load.

Larry Knight
-- 
The L2 Company
(800) L2-PWR-PC (527-9772)
Marietta, GA, USA
Re: WARNING: SilverLining
#1753
Author: Jon Mandel
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 1995 22:29
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marnins@halcyon.com (M Spigelman) wrote:

>
>Hello!
>Were you using version 5.6.1? You did not mention this in your post. I
>have been using this version, and have not had any problems. If you need
>an update, there is a WWW site for LaCie....and suggest you get it, if you
>are so inclined.
>
>Cheers.

I was using version v5.6/23, which is later than 5.6.1.  After SilverLining 
destroyed my disk I downloaded 5.6.3, but then of course it was too late.  I 
subsequently spoke with LaCie tech support, who were at best incompetent and at 
worst flat out rude.  They could offer me no help.  They didn't know what their 
product had done to my drive; they suggested I wasn't supposed to be running 
that version on a Centris 650; and after a 40 minute runaround they admitted 
that this was a known bug in this version of the software.  A known bug?  A bug 
that destroys your HD?  Nice work, LaCie.  Good thing you alerted your users.

Please, be extremely careful working with software produced by a company this 
irresponsible.  They don't know what they're doing, and what they don't know 
can hurt you.
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