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On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Geoff Leff wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm using these newsgroups as a last resort, because I'm stumped..
> This is probably a very simple thing, but as a novice to linux, i'm
> not getting very far.  
> 
> I log onto my ISP using PPP and chat etc.. all is cool there.. I have
> complete communications eg. pinging works great.  However, when I run
> tin -r or rtin to fetch newsgroups etc.. I get the error message 
> 
> set.your.NNTPSERVER.variable: unknown host
> 
> I've tried set NNTPSERVER <domain>, NNTPSERVER=<domain> etc, in my
> profile etc.  basically.. no matter what I do, it comes up with the
> same error..  Can anyone help with suggestions/answers.. it would be
> appreciated.

I cheated. :-)
I created a script called "NEWS", which I put into /bin.
The script looks something like this:

  NNTPSERVER=<my.news.server>
  export NNTPSERVER
  rtin -q -p lpr

Instead of running rtin, I type "NEWS", and leave it at that. :-)

Be forewarned, rtin takes a _long_ time to start up...  I tend to start 
rtin running whilst doing other projects that I _dont_ need bandwidth for 
on my 28.8 line...  Like writing projects, or cooking dinner, or reading.

I tend to use pine for news, though...  Yeah, its not a threaded news
reader, but hey -- it loads in tolerably quick (compared to rtin). 

I keep thinking of collecting news on my machine...  But, first, I need
another hard drive...  But then I couldn't upgrade my motherboard, or ram,
or net connection... I hate tough choices. 

> 
> Please email me on gleff@gil.com.au
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Geoff
> 
> 
> 

Scott David Gray
reply to: sdavid@tiac.net
http://www.tiac.net/users/sdavid

gleff@gil.com.au (Geoff Leff) wrote:


Thanks to those that sent me email.. I was inundated with email..
However, nothing fixed the problem..  It actually looks to me like
something is overwriting the environment variable.

it says this when I start up tin -r

Connecting to set.your.NNTPSERVER.variable

and of course it can't find that as a news server.  I've tried
exporting my variables, putting the one line newsserver in the file
called nntpserver in /etc

This really has me stumped.  Any help would be appreciated..  thanks
again if you reply via email.. 

Cheers
geoff
>Hi,

>I'm using these newsgroups as a last resort, because I'm stumped..
>This is probably a very simple thing, but as a novice to linux, i'm
>not getting very far.  

>I log onto my ISP using PPP and chat etc.. all is cool there.. I have
>complete communications eg. pinging works great.  However, when I run
>tin -r or rtin to fetch newsgroups etc.. I get the error message 

>set.your.NNTPSERVER.variable: unknown host

>I've tried set NNTPSERVER <domain>, NNTPSERVER=<domain> etc, in my
>profile etc.  basically.. no matter what I do, it comes up with the
>same error..  Can anyone help with suggestions/answers.. it would be
>appreciated.

>Please email me on gleff@gil.com.au

>Thanks in advance.

>Geoff

Geoff Leff (gleff@gil.com.au) wrote:
: gleff@gil.com.au (Geoff Leff) wrote:


: Thanks to those that sent me email.. I was inundated with email..
: However, nothing fixed the problem..  It actually looks to me like
: something is overwriting the environment variable.

: it says this when I start up tin -r

: Connecting to set.your.NNTPSERVER.variable

just plop the hostname for your NNTPSERVER in /etc/nntpserver

my /etc/nntpserver is:

cnn.Princeton.EDU

and that's all there is to it.

BTW tin has a useful command line option that ONLY loads those 
newsgroups you are subscribed to, and is MUCH faster that way.

start it as, 

tin -r -n

That should speed things up :)

Easy fix:
in your .profile file, set NNTPSERVER=(whatever yours is)
then by starting tin-r  or rtin, you should use this server.
(worked for me)
P.S.  If you are using a modem connection, I recommend using tin -rqn after 
the initial start (once you have subscribed to the groups you want).  This 
causes tin to forego checking for new groups every time it starts and I found 
it made for a speedier connect.

In article <52sm4j$e84@cnn.Princeton.EDU>, davelee@ranma.princeton.edu (David 
H. Lee) wrote:
>Geoff Leff (gleff@gil.com.au) wrote:
>: gleff@gil.com.au (Geoff Leff) wrote:
>
>
>: Thanks to those that sent me email.. I was inundated with email..
>: However, nothing fixed the problem..  It actually looks to me like
>: something is overwriting the environment variable.
>
>: it says this when I start up tin -r
>
>: Connecting to set.your.NNTPSERVER.variable
>
>just plop the hostname for your NNTPSERVER in /etc/nntpserver
>
>my /etc/nntpserver is:
>
>cnn.Princeton.EDU
>
>and that's all there is to it.
>
>BTW tin has a useful command line option that ONLY loads those 
>newsgroups you are subscribed to, and is MUCH faster that way.
>
>start it as, 
>
>tin -r -n
>
>That should speed things up :)
>

Richard Dubrawski
(rad140@psu.edu)

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a 
little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor 
safety".
          Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
		Benjamin Franklin

Thanks everyone who helped me out.. I've not got it working..

I had to type export $NNTPSERVER NNTPSERVER

Thanks again.

Cheers
Geoff


Geoff Leff (gleff@gil.com.au) wrote:
: Hi,

: I'm using these newsgroups as a last resort, because I'm stumped..
: This is probably a very simple thing, but as a novice to linux, i'm
: not getting very far.  

: I log onto my ISP using PPP and chat etc.. all is cool there.. I have
: complete communications eg. pinging works great.  However, when I run
: tin -r or rtin to fetch newsgroups etc.. I get the error message 

: set.your.NNTPSERVER.variable: unknown host

: I've tried set NNTPSERVER <domain>, NNTPSERVER=<domain> etc, in my
: profile etc.  basically.. no matter what I do, it comes up with the
: same error..  Can anyone help with suggestions/answers.. it would be
: appreciated.

: Please email me on gleff@gil.com.au

: Thanks in advance.

: Geoff

Ummmm.. that should say NOW.. not NOT.. <grin>

Geoff Leff (gleff@buggs.cynergy.com.au) wrote:
: Thanks everyone who helped me out.. I've not got it working..

: I had to type export $NNTPSERVER NNTPSERVER

: Thanks again.

: Cheers
: Geoff


: Geoff Leff (gleff@gil.com.au) wrote:
: : Hi,

: : I'm using these newsgroups as a last resort, because I'm stumped..
: : This is probably a very simple thing, but as a novice to linux, i'm
: : not getting very far.  

: : I log onto my ISP using PPP and chat etc.. all is cool there.. I have
: : complete communications eg. pinging works great.  However, when I run
: : tin -r or rtin to fetch newsgroups etc.. I get the error message 

: : set.your.NNTPSERVER.variable: unknown host

: : I've tried set NNTPSERVER <domain>, NNTPSERVER=<domain> etc, in my
: : profile etc.  basically.. no matter what I do, it comes up with the
: : same error..  Can anyone help with suggestions/answers.. it would be
: : appreciated.

: : Please email me on gleff@gil.com.au

: : Thanks in advance.

: : Geoff

Ok, here's a followup question about tin over NNTP in Linux.  I can read
news just fine via my NNTP server, but when I try to post, I get a:

441 Posting failed

message which makes reading news on that system rahter pointless.  Any
help is appreciated.


Chris

In article <53gvtf$r7f@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu>,
	cdipierr@wam.umd.edu (Christopher M. DiPierro) writes:
> Ok, here's a followup question about tin over NNTP in Linux.  I can read
> news just fine via my NNTP server, but when I try to post, I get a:
> 
> 441 Posting failed
> 

I have seen such a problem when nntp can't create a temporary
file.  At least on FreeBSD my nntpd was trying to write to /usr/tmp.
Making a symlink from /var/tmp to /usr/tmp did the trick.

/mark
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