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kppp
#462
Author: jasbo
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 00:00
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currently i am trying to connect to my isp with kppp but after the modem
dial it just hangs.  Then it gave a "no carrier" and hangsup.

does anyone have any idea why  is that happening??


thanks lot in advance
Re: kppp
#463
Author: patrum
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:00
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your pppd is most likely getting disconnected.  I had the same problem so I
started using RP3 via usernet and I was able to maintain my connection once
I got the usernet configured.

patrum

jasbo wrote:

> currently i am trying to connect to my isp with kppp but after the modem
> dial it just hangs.  Then it gave a "no carrier" and hangsup.
>
> does anyone have any idea why  is that happening??
>
> thanks lot in advance
Re: kppp
#464
Author: Kevin Kamel
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:00
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I had the same problem. When I started using Usernet it went away. Also
tried kmvdial, pretty handy also.

Kevin Kamel.


patrum <patrum@erols.com> wrote in message
news:387A47CF.F6DAE8FA@erols.com...
> your pppd is most likely getting disconnected.  I had the same problem so
I
> started using RP3 via usernet and I was able to maintain my connection
once
> I got the usernet configured.
>
> patrum
>
> jasbo wrote:
>
> > currently i am trying to connect to my isp with kppp but after the modem
> > dial it just hangs.  Then it gave a "no carrier" and hangsup.
> >
> > does anyone have any idea why  is that happening??
> >
> > thanks lot in advance
>
Re: kppp
#465
Author: blariz
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:00
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There are a lot of people complaining about kppp lately (including me).  It
was working fine for me in my COL2.3 distro with the KDE and kppp that
shipped.  Now I am playing with Peanut Linux (kernel 2.2.14, KDE1.1.2) and
the exact same thing is happening mostly as user (not root).  As soon as I
connect,  I immediately get disconnected with the error that "Sorry, the
pppd daemon has died unexpectedly".  I wonder if KDE.org is aware of this
and addressing the issue??   I have downloaded a dialer from freshmeat.net
called XISP that looks like it could be promising.  I haven't installed and
tried it yet.  Hopefully this will get sorted out soon.
blariz

Kevin Kamel <kkamel@pop300.gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote in message
news:85io95$8el$1@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov...
> I had the same problem. When I started using Usernet it went away. Also
> tried kmvdial, pretty handy also.
>
> Kevin Kamel.
>
> patrum <patrum@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:387A47CF.F6DAE8FA@erols.com...
> > your pppd is most likely getting disconnected.  I had the same problem
>so  I  started using RP3 via usernet and I was able to maintain my
connection
> once  I got the usernet configured.
> >
> > patrum jasbo wrote:
> >
> > currently i am trying to connect to my isp with kppp but after the
> >modem dial it just hangs.  Then it gave a "no carrier" and hangsup.
> > does anyone have any idea why  is that happening??
> >
> > thanks lot in advance
Re: kppp
#466
Author: blariz
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:00
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There are a lot of people complaining about kppp lately (including
me).  It was working fine for me in my COL2.3 distro with the KDE and
kppp that shipped.  Now I am playing with Peanut Linux (kernel 2.2.14,
KDE1.1.2) and the exact same thing is happening mostly as user (not
root).  As soon as I connect,  I immediately get disconnected with the
error that "Sorry, the pppd daemon has died unexpectedly".  I wonder if
KDE.org is aware of this and addressing the issue??   I have downloaded
a dialer from freshmeat.net called XISP that looks like it could be
promising.  I haven't installed and tried it yet.  Hopefully this will
get sorted out soon.
blariz

In article <85io95$8el$1@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov>,
  "Kevin Kamel" <kkamel@pop300.gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote:
> I had the same problem. When I started using Usernet it went away.
Also
> tried kmvdial, pretty handy also.
>
> Kevin Kamel.
>
> patrum <patrum@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:387A47CF.F6DAE8FA@erols.com...
> > your pppd is most likely getting disconnected.  I had the same
problem so
> I
> > started using RP3 via usernet and I was able to maintain my
connection
> once
> > I got the usernet configured.
> >
> > patrum
> >
> > jasbo wrote:
> >
> > > currently i am trying to connect to my isp with kppp but after
the modem
> > > dial it just hangs.  Then it gave a "no carrier" and hangsup.
> > >
> > > does anyone have any idea why  is that happening??
> > >
> > > thanks lot in advance
> >
>
>


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Before you buy.
Re: kppp
#467
Author: jorge o. castro
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:00
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blariz wrote:
> 
> There are a lot of people complaining about kppp lately (including
> me).  It was working fine for me in my COL2.3 distro with the KDE and
> kppp that shipped.  Now I am playing with Peanut Linux (kernel 2.2.14,
> KDE1.1.2) and the exact same thing is happening mostly as user (not
> root).  As soon as I connect,  I immediately get disconnected with the
> error that "Sorry, the pppd daemon has died unexpectedly".  I wonder if
> KDE.org is aware of this and addressing the issue??   I have downloaded
> a dialer from freshmeat.net called XISP that looks like it could be
> promising.  I haven't installed and tried it yet.  Hopefully this will
> get sorted out soon.
> blariz

did you try "chmod u+s pppd" and/or "chmod u+s kppp" ??? It's in the KDE
ppp faq .. I had that problem with the disconnect, did that, now it
works fine!!
Re: kppp
#468
Author: blariz
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:00
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Thanks for the tip, I will go to KDE.org and check for the FAQ's.  I
hope it works for me too!
blariz

In article <387D7449.BF5772C1@infantry.com>,
  "jorge o. castro" <castro@infantry.com> wrote:
> blariz wrote:
> >
> > There are a lot of people complaining about kppp lately (including
> > me).  It was working fine for me in my COL2.3 distro with the KDE
and
> > kppp that shipped.  Now I am playing with Peanut Linux (kernel
2.2.14,
> > KDE1.1.2) and the exact same thing is happening mostly as user (not
> > root).  As soon as I connect,  I immediately get disconnected with
the
> > error that "Sorry, the pppd daemon has died unexpectedly".  I
wonder if
> > KDE.org is aware of this and addressing the issue??   I have
downloaded
> > a dialer from freshmeat.net called XISP that looks like it could be
> > promising.  I haven't installed and tried it yet.  Hopefully this
will
> > get sorted out soon.
> > blariz
>
> did you try "chmod u+s pppd" and/or "chmod u+s kppp" ??? It's in the
KDE
> ppp faq .. I had that problem with the disconnect, did that, now it
> works fine!!
>


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Before you buy.
Re: kppp
#469
Author: Unbeliever
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:00
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In article <387D7449.BF5772C1@infantry.com>, "jorge o. castro" <castro@infantry.com> wrote:
> blariz wrote:
>> 
>> There are a lot of people complaining about kppp lately (including
>> me).  It was working fine for me in my COL2.3 distro with the KDE and
>> kppp that shipped.  Now I am playing with Peanut Linux (kernel 2.2.14,
>> KDE1.1.2) and the exact same thing is happening mostly as user (not
>> root).  As soon as I connect,  I immediately get disconnected with the
>> error that "Sorry, the pppd daemon has died unexpectedly".  I wonder if
>> KDE.org is aware of this and addressing the issue??   I have downloaded
>> a dialer from freshmeat.net called XISP that looks like it could be
>> promising.  I haven't installed and tried it yet.  Hopefully this will
>> get sorted out soon.
>> blariz
> 
> did you try "chmod u+s pppd" and/or "chmod u+s kppp" ??? It's in the KDE
> ppp faq .. I had that problem with the disconnect, did that, now it
> works fine!!

I did this without luck. Checking /var/log/messages tells me that the dialer (for me both kppp and gnome-ppp) can't get access to /dev/ttyS3 - the modem. Works fine from root. I've tried several combinations of permissions, ownership and group with all files involved (pppd, kppp or gnome-ppp and /dev/ttyS3), no luck. Still works fine from root reguardless of what I do and will immediately disconnect when I hit connect from the user account.
-- 
Randy Powell
	"Reality is just a convenient level of complexity"
			Steven Lassiter
Re: kppp
#470
Author: Ulrich Brachvogel
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:00
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blariz , Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:24:58 -0700 wrote:
> There are a lot of people complaining about kppp lately (including me).  It
> was working fine for me in my COL2.3 distro with the KDE and kppp that
> shipped.  Now I am playing with Peanut Linux (kernel 2.2.14, KDE1.1.2) and
>........
Hi,
when I changed from KDE V1.01 to V1.1.1 I had similar problems. Somwhere in
the net I found the advice to change the modem speed in the preferences of
kppp (simply change, the value doesn't matter!). And after that it worked. I
do not know why. ttfn Uli 
___________________________________
// <( ) 
//    \______// 
//     \____/    Ulrich Brachvogel 
//       / \     "Save The Curlew!"              
Re: kppp
#471
Author: Patricia
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:00
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blariz wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the tip, I will go to KDE.org and check for the FAQ's.  I
> hope it works for me too!
> blariz
> 
> In article <387D7449.BF5772C1@infantry.com>,
>   "jorge o. castro" <castro@infantry.com> wrote:
> > blariz wrote:
> > >
> > > There are a lot of people complaining about kppp lately (including
> > > me).  It was working fine for me in my COL2.3 distro with the KDE
> and
> > > kppp that shipped.  Now I am playing with Peanut Linux (kernel
> 2.2.14,
> > > KDE1.1.2) and the exact same thing is happening mostly as user (not
> > > root).  As soon as I connect,  I immediately get disconnected with
> the
> > > error that "Sorry, the pppd daemon has died unexpectedly".  I
> wonder if
> > > KDE.org is aware of this and addressing the issue??   I have
> downloaded
> > > a dialer from freshmeat.net called XISP that looks like it could be
> > > promising.  I haven't installed and tried it yet.  Hopefully this
> will
> > > get sorted out soon.
> > > blariz
> >
> > did you try "chmod u+s pppd" and/or "chmod u+s kppp" ??? It's in the
> KDE
> > ppp faq .. I had that problem with the disconnect, did that, now it
> > works fine!!
> >
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
* be sure pppd is the binary and not a script. 
* be sure that pppd  is setuid root 
* be sure  /etc/ppp/options exist and there are no wrong entries, when
you are not sure, leave it empty. 
* uncheck the option use lock file 
* remove the  lock  in /etc/ppp/options 
* if the symbolic link /dev/modem causes problems,. 
            Use the real port ( -> setup->modem->device) 
            ttyS0 -> COM1 
            ttyS1 -> COM2 
            ttyS2 -> COM3 
            ttyS3 -> COM4 

-- 
HTH :-)
Patricia

http://www.crosswinds.net/~beginnerslinux
Red Hat Linux release 6.0 (Hedwig)
Kernel 2.2.5-15
  1:52am  up 18:33,  1 user,  load average: 1.18, 1.34, 1.34
Fri Jan 14 01:52:18 CET 2000
Re: kppp
#472
Author: Harry Fine
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:00
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Patricia, I belive that's the wrong advice you're giving.  There is an
AWFUL but in RH 6.1 which requires you to do two things to stop that
message.

1.  put "noauth" in the /etc/ppp/options file

2.  After the connection is made, type route add default ppp0

To permanently correct the second problem, you can generally go into
/etc/sysconfig, and edit the file called "network", and take out any
value after GATEWAY=.  This will stop the default route being set on
boot.

The problem people are complaining about bitterly and frequently has
nothing to do with ppp misconfiguration, or chat scripts.  Yes, it
helps to have suid set to root on pppd, but the problem people are
having is caused by Red Hat not doing their homework.  They should be
ashamed at a bug like this which is causing almost everyone (with a
network card perhaps) to have an impossible time connecting to the
internet.  How do they expect people to convert to this great
platform, when they make it so tough.  

The fix to this (and the parallel port not detected problem which you
are also aware of) should be posted with blinking lites and big fonts
so that people with a problem can spot it easily.  Maybe something
like "Red Hat 6.1 users check here for important bug fix information".
That doesn't make the stock price go up, but it gives newbies some
help.

Harry

Patricia <preggers@NOSPAMvillage.uunet.be> wrote:

>blariz wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the tip, I will go to KDE.org and check for the FAQ's.  I
>> hope it works for me too!
>> blariz
>> 
>> In article <387D7449.BF5772C1@infantry.com>,
>>   "jorge o. castro" <castro@infantry.com> wrote:
>> > blariz wrote:
>> > >
>> > > There are a lot of people complaining about kppp lately (including
>> > > me).  It was working fine for me in my COL2.3 distro with the KDE
>> and
>> > > kppp that shipped.  Now I am playing with Peanut Linux (kernel
>> 2.2.14,
>> > > KDE1.1.2) and the exact same thing is happening mostly as user (not
>> > > root).  As soon as I connect,  I immediately get disconnected with
>> the
>> > > error that "Sorry, the pppd daemon has died unexpectedly".  I
>> wonder if
>> > > KDE.org is aware of this and addressing the issue??   I have
>> downloaded
>> > > a dialer from freshmeat.net called XISP that looks like it could be
>> > > promising.  I haven't installed and tried it yet.  Hopefully this
>> will
>> > > get sorted out soon.
>> > > blariz
>> >
>> > did you try "chmod u+s pppd" and/or "chmod u+s kppp" ??? It's in the
>> KDE
>> > ppp faq .. I had that problem with the disconnect, did that, now it
>> > works fine!!
>> >
>> 
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.
>* be sure pppd is the binary and not a script. 
>* be sure that pppd  is setuid root 
>* be sure  /etc/ppp/options exist and there are no wrong entries, when
>you are not sure, leave it empty. 
>* uncheck the option use lock file 
>* remove the  lock  in /etc/ppp/options 
>* if the symbolic link /dev/modem causes problems,. 
>            Use the real port ( -> setup->modem->device) 
>            ttyS0 -> COM1 
>            ttyS1 -> COM2 
>            ttyS2 -> COM3 
>            ttyS3 -> COM4 
>
>-- 
>HTH :-)
>Patricia
>
>http://www.crosswinds.net/~beginnerslinux
>Red Hat Linux release 6.0 (Hedwig)
>Kernel 2.2.5-15
>  1:52am  up 18:33,  1 user,  load average: 1.18, 1.34, 1.34
>Fri Jan 14 01:52:18 CET 2000

Harry Fine
Toronto, Canada
Re: kppp
#473
Author: Greg Crutcher
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:00
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Corel's kppp is broken. To fix it (as root) at command prompt type:
"mv /etc/ppp/options  /etc/ppp/options.old <enter>(renames file)
"touch /etc/ppp/options" <enter>(creates new file)
don't type quotemarks

It works as long as everything else is setup correctly

Good Luck!!



blariz wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the tip, I will go to KDE.org and check for the FAQ's.  I
> hope it works for me too!
> blariz
> 
> In article <387D7449.BF5772C1@infantry.com>,
>   "jorge o. castro" <castro@infantry.com> wrote:
> > blariz wrote:
> > >
> > > There are a lot of people complaining about kppp lately (including
> > > me).  It was working fine for me in my COL2.3 distro with the KDE
> and
> > > kppp that shipped.  Now I am playing with Peanut Linux (kernel
> 2.2.14,
> > > KDE1.1.2) and the exact same thing is happening mostly as user (not
> > > root).  As soon as I connect,  I immediately get disconnected with
> the
> > > error that "Sorry, the pppd daemon has died unexpectedly".  I
> wonder if
> > > KDE.org is aware of this and addressing the issue??   I have
> downloaded
> > > a dialer from freshmeat.net called XISP that looks like it could be
> > > promising.  I haven't installed and tried it yet.  Hopefully this
> will
> > > get sorted out soon.
> > > blariz
> >
> > did you try "chmod u+s pppd" and/or "chmod u+s kppp" ??? It's in the
> KDE
> > ppp faq .. I had that problem with the disconnect, did that, now it
> > works fine!!
> >
> 
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> Before you buy.
Re: kppp
#474
Author: Kevin Kamel
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:00
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The default route was the problem I was having. It was inserted
automatically by the installer when it detected my network card.

I found that when I installed on a different box (with Redhat 6.1) and told
it NOT to setup my NIC, that it worked fine. I then set up my NIC by hand
afterwards.

I also converted to usernet at that time because KPPP was pissing me off
from the previous install. Regardless mine works fine now.

If people want copies of any of my files let me know, Ill post.

-Kevin

Kevin Kamel <kkamel@pop300.gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote in message
news:85io95$8el$1@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov...
> I had the same problem. When I started using Usernet it went away. Also
> tried kmvdial, pretty handy also.
>
> Kevin Kamel.
>
>
> patrum <patrum@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:387A47CF.F6DAE8FA@erols.com...
> > your pppd is most likely getting disconnected.  I had the same problem
so
> I
> > started using RP3 via usernet and I was able to maintain my connection
> once
> > I got the usernet configured.
> >
> > patrum
> >
> > jasbo wrote:
> >
> > > currently i am trying to connect to my isp with kppp but after the
modem
> > > dial it just hangs.  Then it gave a "no carrier" and hangsup.
> > >
> > > does anyone have any idea why  is that happening??
> > >
> > > thanks lot in advance
> >
>
>
Re: kppp
#460
Author: Steve
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:00
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>
>did you try "chmod u+s pppd" and/or "chmod u+s kppp" ??? It's in the KDE
>ppp faq .. I had that problem with the disconnect, did that, now it
>works fine!!

Thanks for sharing, this fixed my wvdial prob as an ordinary user.  

Using Usernet, the modem kept getting stuffed, so I had to keep
rebooting to get it back, with wvdial it doesn't.

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:sjlen@ndirect.co.uk

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

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Re: kppp
#461
Author: Steve
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:00
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>I did this without luck. Checking /var/log/messages tells me that the dialer (for me 
>both kppp and gnome-ppp) can't get access to /dev/ttyS3 - the modem. Works fine from 
>root. I've tried several combinations of permissions, ownership and group with all 
>files involved (pppd, kppp or gnome-ppp and /dev/ttyS3), no luck. Still works fine from 
>root reguardless of what I do and will immediately disconnect when I hit connect from 
>the user account.
>-- 

Randy 

It sounds as though your system is not set to allow ordinary users to dial 
out if you've got the same prob with all those apps.

go into a terminal window, do a su you'll be prompted for the root password, 
then when you're in as root do linuxconf, then in the window that opens up 
go into Config -> Networking -> PPP/SLIP/PLIP then in the hardware tab of 
the window that opens up put a check next to "Allow any user (de)activate 
the interface."

I hope this helps.

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:sjlen@ndirect.co.uk

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

  2:58am  up 2 days, 12:26,  7 users,  load average: 1.19, 1.31, 1.14
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