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As much as I like to scoff at MS I'll have to admit that hooking up a
couple of NT Workstations is pretty easy.  Almost automatic.  I'm sure
you can do it.  Here's how I did it and what I recommend.  I support a
large NT network at work but at home I run a peer-to-peer setup and this
works good for me.

Buy: RG58 Coax cable (also called ThinLan and 10base2) to connect the
two machines.  Also you'll need two 50ohm "terminators" and two "T's" to
properly connect and terminate your machines.  Two Network Interface
Cards (NIC's).  I'd recommend not scraping here but buy good 3com cards.
You can get 3com cards like the 509 series for around $150.00 each.
Make sure these are capable of handling ThinLan 10base2 cable.

Install: The cards, the cable and T's and terminators.  Also go into the
software install and install the "adapters" using the Control Panel |
Network | Adapter | Add button.  Install NetBuei and TCP/IP for
protocols on each machine.  Give each machine (in this same section) a
"simple" unique NetBuei name of 8 characters or less (each machine needs
it own private name) and give your workgroup a workgroup name (same on
both machines).  I just used the default "workgroup" but you can change
it if you like.

Reboot everything and VIOLA, you'll be networking (grin)!  Really.  It's
almost this easy.  NT automatically sets virtually everything as
sharable by default so this should work without a lot of configuration.

-Frank

dlnorris@worldnet.att.net wrote in message
<644vqd$5o5@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>I need to be able to transfer files back and forth between 2 machines.
>Both run NT 4.0 Workstation.
>
>Microsoft's NT manual isn't a whole lot of help.
>
>Anyone know where I can find a source of instructions for MINIMUM
>settings required on both machines - especially with an eye toward
>mimimum amount of administrative stuff?
>
>Please E-mail to: dlnorris@wordnet.att.net

Is there any difference between this (below) and using 2 ethernet cards via
rj45? Thanks in advance. -DH

Frank Sexton <fsexton@xpert.net> wrote in article
<3466140a.0@news3.ibm.net>...
> As much as I like to scoff at MS I'll have to admit that hooking up a
> couple of NT Workstations is pretty easy.  Almost automatic.  I'm sure
> you can do it.  Here's how I did it and what I recommend.  I support a
> large NT network at work but at home I run a peer-to-peer setup and this
> works good for me.
> 
> Buy: RG58 Coax cable (also called ThinLan and 10base2) to connect the
> two machines.  Also you'll need two 50ohm "terminators" and two "T's" to
> properly connect and terminate your machines.  Two Network Interface
> Cards (NIC's).  I'd recommend not scraping here but buy good 3com cards.
> You can get 3com cards like the 509 series for around $150.00 each.
> Make sure these are capable of handling ThinLan 10base2 cable.
> 
> Install: The cards, the cable and T's and terminators.  Also go into the
> software install and install the "adapters" using the Control Panel |
> Network | Adapter | Add button.  Install NetBuei and TCP/IP for
> protocols on each machine.  Give each machine (in this same section) a
> "simple" unique NetBuei name of 8 characters or less (each machine needs
> it own private name) and give your workgroup a workgroup name (same on
> both machines).  I just used the default "workgroup" but you can change
> it if you like.
> 
> Reboot everything and VIOLA, you'll be networking (grin)!  Really.  It's
> almost this easy.  NT automatically sets virtually everything as
> sharable by default so this should work without a lot of configuration.
> 
> -Frank
> 
> dlnorris@worldnet.att.net wrote in message
> <644vqd$5o5@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
> >I need to be able to transfer files back and forth between 2 machines.
> >Both run NT 4.0 Workstation.
> >
> >Microsoft's NT manual isn't a whole lot of help.
> >
> >Anyone know where I can find a source of instructions for MINIMUM
> >settings required on both machines - especially with an eye toward
> >mimimum amount of administrative stuff?
> >
> >Please E-mail to: dlnorris@wordnet.att.net
> 
> 
> 

tui wrote:
> 
> Is there any difference between this (below) and using 2 ethernet cards via
> rj45? Thanks in advance. -DH
<snip coax procedure>

It uses more hardware:  if you have 2 machines w/ RJ45 connectors you
can use a simple crossover cable to connect them (make a cat5 cable but
cross wires (1 and 3) and (2 and 6) I think) w/o worrying about
T-connectors or terminators.  Or you can use 2 cat5 patch cables and a
small hub;  this method is a bit more expensive, but it's just as easy
to set up and you still have room to add machines later on.

Scott
scott(a)earth.nexus.net

tui <trade.unlimited@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<01bceded$68f6fb60$2b85440c@tui>...
> Is there any difference between this (below) and using 2 ethernet cards
via
> rj45? Thanks in advance. -DH

To use RJ45 you need either a hub or a special "crossover" cable, and then
you can only ever have 2 PCs networked.

Ed

It's 10 Nov 97  14:35:57,
We'll return to dlnorris@worldnet.att.net and All's
discussion of SIMPLE peer to peer network on NT 4.0 workstation

 dl> I need to be able to transfer files back and forth between 2 machines.
 dl> Both run NT 4.0 Workstation.

 dl> Microsoft's NT manual isn't a whole lot of help.

 dl> Anyone know where I can find a source of instructions for MINIMUM
 dl> settings required on both machines - especially with an eye toward
 dl> mimimum amount of administrative stuff?

Here's a short list. :-)

1.  Install a network card in each machine and configure it in Control
Panel -> Network -> Adaptors.  Link the two with a crossover cable.
(You'll need to login as Administrator to configure networking.

2.  Select a protocol.  For a simple 2 machine LAN, I suggest NetBEUI,
it's fast on a network this small and requires no configuration.

3.  Ensure that the Server and Workstation services are listed under
Services.

4.  In Identification, assign each machine a unique name and set them up
to join a workgroup.  Use the same workgroup night on both machines.

Close the Network applet and reboot when prompted.

Login as Administrator and run User Manager for Domains.

Create a user account on each machine for each user who needs network
access.  The user ID and password must be the same on both workstations.

Now you can login as yourself and map drives using Network Neighbourhood
or Explorer.  Copying files will then be the same as between local
drives.

Good luck. :-)

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Systems Administrator wrote:
> 
> tui <trade.unlimited@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
> <01bceded$68f6fb60$2b85440c@tui>...
> > Is there any difference between this (below) and using 2 ethernet cards
> via
> > rj45? Thanks in advance. -DH
> 
> To use RJ45 you need either a hub or a special "crossover" cable, and then
> you can only ever have 2 PCs networked.
> 
> Ed
Can anyone tell me the correct pins for the "crossover" cable?

Thanks,
David Sanders

David Sanders wrote:
> 
> Systems Administrator wrote:
> >
> > tui <trade.unlimited@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
> > <01bceded$68f6fb60$2b85440c@tui>...
> > > Is there any difference between this (below) and using 2 ethernet cards
> > via
> > > rj45? Thanks in advance. -DH
> >
> > To use RJ45 you need either a hub or a special "crossover" cable, and then
> > you can only ever have 2 PCs networked.
> >
> > Ed
> Can anyone tell me the correct pins for the "crossover" cable?
> 
> Thanks,
> David Sanders


Correction on my last post.

1 & 2 go to 3 & 6.

-- 
Leonard K Pennock

David Sanders wrote:
> 
> Systems Administrator wrote:
> >
> > tui <trade.unlimited@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
> > <01bceded$68f6fb60$2b85440c@tui>...
> > > Is there any difference between this (below) and using 2 ethernet cards
> > via
> > > rj45? Thanks in advance. -DH
> >
> > To use RJ45 you need either a hub or a special "crossover" cable, and then
> > you can only ever have 2 PCs networked.
> >
> > Ed
> Can anyone tell me the correct pins for the "crossover" cable?
> 
> Thanks,
> David Sanders

Pins 1& 2 go to pins 3 & 4.

-- 
Leonard K Pennock