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\In <373a1e4a@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, vbien@ibm.net   (Victor Bien) writes:
\>  Netscape 4.04 works fine on my business Warp 3 Connect machine but
\>it won't get any pages off the web on a Warp 3 (plain machine - with
\>FP39).  It says it is looking up the URL and just gets stuck there. 
\>If you type a non-existent URL it says correctly the URL cannot be 
\>found on the DNS.  Netscape 2.02 works fine.  Ping(ing) the IAP's or
\>their DNS's IP addresses gets the correct responses.  I had a look 
\>for updates to tcp/ip for Warp 3 plain but found nothing.
\>
\>  Would someone comment please?
\>
\>TIA
\>
\>Victor Bien
\>VCB Computing Alternatives (R)
\>Employing network marketing concepts to promote OS/2
\>The network is the channel (apologies to Sun).
\>Use and help promote OS/2 to your friends and associates and teach 
\>them to do the same!
\>

Let me get this straight. You are trying to use a Warp 3 PC to read HTML on
a Warp 3 Connect PC. You did not mention what web server is running on the
Warp 3 Connect PC. If the two PCs are on a LAN, you can use Peer networking
to read the mapped (eg. G:\) file on another PC, have you tried that?
eg.:

file:///G|/PATH/DOCUMENT.HTML

Cheers,
James Cannon
cannon@mozart.inet.co.th
Bangkok OS/2 User Group

http://www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/cannon
     Access Internet Thailand with OS/2
     emx Installation (GNU C/C++)
     DOS POV-Ray with OS/2

In <7hek6u$br9@chopin.inet.co.th>, cannon@NOSPAM-NOSHIT.mozart.inet.co.th (James Cannon) writes:

[my original stuff cited cut]

>Let me get this straight. You are trying to use a Warp 3 PC to read HTML on
>a Warp 3 Connect PC. You did not mention what web server is running on the
>Warp 3 Connect PC. If the two PCs are on a LAN, you can use Peer networking
>to read the mapped (eg. G:\) file on another PC, have you tried that?
>eg.:
>
>file:///G|/PATH/DOCUMENT.HTML

  Sorry for not making things clearer - I didn't think I had to. 
Obviously the Warp 3 plain has no ability to link to my LAN.  I had
a modem attached to it and dialed up to check it all out.  So it 
only had a dialup connection.  Both Netscape 2.02 & 4.04 have been 
left at "directly connect to the Internet".  Under those conditions 
2.02 works fine but 4.04 doesn't.

  I'm wondering whether the tcpip 4.? (can't remember) I have on my 
Connect machine (mentioned purely for comparison which separately 
can dialup and runs 4.04 fine) is the determining factor?  If it is 
I wonder whether I can install the dialup bits only.  Obviously in
the Warp 3 plain machine there is no mpts 52??  which is a
"prerequisite" for tcpip 4.?  So I'm a bit pussy foot <g> to try it
and wondered whether you guys know.  I may just try it anyway.

TIA
Victor Bien

\In <373ca67c@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, vbien@ibm.net   (Victor Bien) writes:
\>In <7hek6u$br9@chopin.inet.co.th>, cannon@NOSPAM-NOSHIT.mozart.inet.co.th (James Cannon) writes:
\>
\>[my original stuff cited cut]
\>[my original reply stuff deleted]
\>
\>  Sorry for not making things clearer - I didn't think I had to. 
\>Obviously the Warp 3 plain has no ability to link to my LAN.  I had
\>a modem attached to it and dialed up to check it all out.  So it 
\>only had a dialup connection.  Both Netscape 2.02 & 4.04 have been 
\>left at "directly connect to the Internet".  Under those conditions 
\>2.02 works fine but 4.04 doesn't.
\>
\>  I'm wondering whether the tcpip 4.? (can't remember) I have on my 
\>Connect machine (mentioned purely for comparison which separately 
\>can dialup and runs 4.04 fine) is the determining factor?  If it is 
\>I wonder whether I can install the dialup bits only.  Obviously in
\>the Warp 3 plain machine there is no mpts 52??  which is a
\>"prerequisite" for tcpip 4.?  So I'm a bit pussy foot <g> to try it
\>and wondered whether you guys know.  I may just try it anyway.
>\
>\TIA
\>Victor Bien
\>

Victor sorry about the confusion. I usnderstand you are trying to reach a Warp
3 PC via a dial up connection. What web server software are you using on the
PC (Apache, ... )? I would check your configuration settings on your web server
and be sure a "default" index.html exists in the proper directory. Then you can
hopefully type in the IP address and read that first crucial index.html. I hope 
that helps. 

Cheers,
James Cannon
cannon@mozart.inet.co.th
Bangkok OS/2 User Group

http://www.inet.co.th/cyberclub/cannon
     Access Internet Thailand with OS/2
     emx Installation (GNU C/C++)
     DOS POV-Ray with OS/2

In <7hikmm$rjn@chopin.inet.co.th>, cannon@mozart.inet.co.th (James Cannon) writes:

[my original stuff cited cut]

>Victor sorry about the confusion. I usnderstand you are trying to reach a Warp
>3 PC via a dial up connection. What web server software are you using on the
>PC (Apache, ... )? I would check your configuration settings on your web server

  Thanks James but oh boy its so easy to be misunderstood!

  No I'm trying to get a Warp 3 plain box up as a demo machine 
capable of dialing up to the Internet using a modem.  The dialup
other internet provider works fine.  I just use my IAP for testing
purposes.  Firing up Netscape 2.02 allows browsing the web in the
usual way.  Firing up Netscape 4.04 just results it trying to
contact the host and it sitting there dumb indefinitely.  No reply
is received and thus no contact and receiving of data happens.  The
Warp 3 plain installation has had FP39 applied.  The tcpip is as
original Warp plain installation I think.

  Now going over to the Warp 3 Connect machine and doing the same 
thing both Netscapes work perfectly.  The Warp Connect has had FP39 
applied and MPTN 8423 and TCPIP 4.0 using the package IC17248
applied.

  I'm not trying to get the Warp 3 plain machine to talk to the
Connect machine in anyway.  The two runs just mentioned were just 
"back to back" comparisons.

  If applying the TCPIP 4 fix doesn't fix things this would mean 
that the lowest level of Warp Netscape 4.04 can run on is Warp 
Connect as distinct from its plain cousin.

Regards
Victor Bien

In <373ea7ce@news3.us.ibm.net>, vbien@ibm.net  (Victor Bien) writes:
>In <7hikmm$rjn@chopin.inet.co.th>, cannon@mozart.inet.co.th (James Cannon) writes:

This is responding to my own posting again but the reason is to 
report new findings ...

>
>[my original stuff cited cut]
>
>  No I'm trying to get a Warp 3 plain box up as a demo machine 
>capable of dialing up to the Internet using a modem.  The dialup
>other internet provider works fine.  I just use my IAP for testing
>purposes.  Firing up Netscape 2.02 allows browsing the web in the
>usual way.  Firing up Netscape 4.04 just results it trying to
>contact the host and it sitting there dumb indefinitely.  No reply

[stuff cut]

>  If applying the TCPIP 4 fix doesn't fix things this would mean 
>that the lowest level of Warp Netscape 4.04 can run on is Warp 
>Connect as distinct from its plain cousin.

  Applying TCPIP 4 fix had no effect.  Installing the Warp Connect 
networking stuff only (and effectively turning Warp 3 into Warp 
Connect brought Netscape 4.04 to life.

  The network stuff came straight off the original CD-ROM - no 
fixpack relating to the network stuff was applied (of course the
main part of Warp is at FP39).

  So my inference above is empirically confirmed.

Victor Bien
VCB Computing Alternatives (R)
Employing network marketing concepts to promote OS/2
The network is the channel (apologies to Sun).
Use and help promote OS/2 to your friends and associates and teach 
them to do the same!

On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:18:12, vbien@ibm.net   (Victor Bien) wrote:

> In <xDK2NluHBVGg-pn2-uMXkl9Rs1ksr@localhost>, stephen@midac.splat.spam.com.au (stephen) writes:
> >On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:23:58, vbien@ibm.net   (Victor Bien) wrote:
> >
> >> [stuff cut]
> >
> >Just reading these posts now and am confused.
> >
> >I run Netscape 4.04 on Warp 3.0 fixpack 37 (not Connect). Is that what
> >you were trying unsuccesfully to do?
> 
>   Yes.
>   I should have added that the machine was dialed up to the Internet
> direct via modem in all cases of my present and all past
> discussions in this thread.  I was not using Connect to LAN across
> to another machine acting as a proxy server.  That method of access
> I have under my belt even with Windoze machines.  I could not get
> 4.04 to get a connection although you could see it trying...  It
> would never get to "connected to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" and then
> "receiving data ..."

That is my situation, I have a stand alone computer. I use Injoy to 
connect to my ISP.

> 
> >
> >I admit that I only use it when I have to, my preference is for 
> >Netscape 2.02 as it runs quicker on my old 486 with 1mb video.
> 
>   I was only interested in getting 4.04 up for promo purposes since
> it looks more familiar to the outsiders who nearly universally only
> know Windows.  On my workhorse machine with Warp 3 Connect and 2MB
> ATI Mach32 I generally use 4.04 because of the more up-to-date
> interface.
> 
> Regards
> Victor Bien
> 
> 
> 

Regards,

Stephen

In <xDK2NluHBVGg-pn2-uIvUOdHHIyLb@inia-tc04.laa.com.au>, stephen@midac.splat.spam.com.au (stephen) writes:
>On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:18:12, vbien@ibm.net   (Victor Bien) wrote:

[previous stuff cut]

>That is my situation, I have a stand alone computer. I use Injoy to 
>connect to my ISP.

  Well that further confirms my finding that 4.04 requires at least 
Warp 3 Connect.  The stuff in MPTS must make the essential 
difference.

  Yes, of course Injoy or IGate can be used to turn the Connect 
machine into a proxy server so another machine LANed to it can 
access the Internet.  That's what my Connect workhorse machine does 
which is handy when say my kid wants to get on the Internet at the 
same time I'm working away or when some page requires the facilities
available only under Win9x.

Regards
Victor Bien

On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:39:43, vbien@ibm.net  (Victor Bien) wrote:

> In <xDK2NluHBVGg-pn2-ElZZ8XQ3Bidc@inia-tf07.laa.com.au>, stephen@midac.splat.spam.com.au (stephen) writes:
> >On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:21:39, vbien@ibm.net   (Victor Bien) wrote:
> 
> [previous stuff cut]
> 
> >Am I reading something wrong here, or are you, or is what I have 
> >written unclear?
> 
>   Yes it was unclear.  I did think you said that it works on Warp 3 
> plain but then the one I replied to suggested that you were getting 
> the same result as mine.
> 
> >
> >I CAN run 4.04 on my machine which does NOT have connect. I use Injoy 
> >as my dialer instead of DOIP.
> 
>   I mainly use the IAK dialer.  I did try the Injoy dialer but that 
> made no difference.
> 
>   So now the question is why the setup works in your case and 
> doesn't with mine.
> 
>   I will try to get around to Chris Hoffman's suggestion to pose a 
> query in c.o.o.networking-tcpip.  Maybe a visit to deja news will do
> the trick but that takes time.  But then I'm not getting a lift from
> you guys.  Networking is weakened if you don't play the game.  What
> I want is hard info not vague memories.
> 
> Ciao
> Victor Bien
> 
> 

Victor,

I have been communicating with you to clarify that you were running 
the same basic setup as me as at first I thought you may have had 
something different. 

We have now clarified that so that you have just been able to say "So 
now the question is why the setup works in your case and doesn't with 
mine."

That means that as a result of networking you now know something that 
you did not know before. I therefore take strong exception to your 
comment "But then I'm not getting a lift from you guys.  Networking is
weakened if you don't play the game.  What I want is hard info not 
vague memories."

If I had not "played the game" you would still be in your ignorant 
darkness believing that Netscape 4.04 does not run in Warp 3 (Plain, 
not Connect).




Stephen

In <xDK2NluHBVGg-pn2-dfXfd2oJd66I@localhost>, stephen@midac.splat.spam.com.au (stephen) writes:
>On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:39:43, vbien@ibm.net  (Victor Bien) wrote:

[previous stuff cut]

>
>Victor,
>
>I have been communicating with you to clarify that you were running 
>the same basic setup as me as at first I thought you may have had 
>something different. 
>
>We have now clarified that so that you have just been able to say "So 
>now the question is why the setup works in your case and doesn't with 
>mine."
>
>That means that as a result of networking you now know something that 
>you did not know before. I therefore take strong exception to your 
>comment "But then I'm not getting a lift from you guys.  Networking is
>weakened if you don't play the game.  What I want is hard info not 
>vague memories."
>
>If I had not "played the game" you would still be in your ignorant 
>darkness believing that Netscape 4.04 does not run in Warp 3 (Plain, 
>not Connect).

  Apologise for losing my cool - due to frustration!  If I was 
pursuing these questions as a hobby I would have been more relaxed 
but as a business, time is money ...

  However, at this point it seems none of us are wiser as to the 
critical difference.  With the way I set the machine up 4.04 won't
work on Warp3 + FP39 but place the Connect stuff on it and it does.
This jacks up the cost.

Ciao
Victor B.