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9 total messages Started by Dennis Mills Wed, 13 Mar 1996 00:00
Problems with Ultimail/sendmail
#1407
Author: Dennis Mills
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 00:00
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Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem?

I have Ultimail set up under OS/2 Warp (correctly as far as I can tell).
I can happily establish a SLIP connection to my service provider via the
Network Dialler app., then start up Ultimail and read any new mail (the only
problem being that I am always prompted for the mail server and password).

However, whenever I attempt to send outgoing mail (either replying to incoming
or unsolicited) it appears that the sendmail program fails to see the tcp/ip
stack and exits. Outgoing mail then ends up in the send queue.

Whenever I establish a SLIP connection, something recognises that a tcp/ip
connection has been made, and Ultimail/sendmail attempts to send the queued
messages, but it again fails ("Tcp/ip not running" or something) and sendmail
exits.

Any help would be appreciated. I believe I am running the latest Ultimail
(retrieved from the ftp site).

Thanks,

Dennis
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Dennis Mills, Senior Research Engineer,		Phone:  +61 3 9662 7758
CSIRO Division of Manufacturing Technology,	Fax:	+61 3 9662 7851
Cnr Albert and Raglan Streets, Preston		GSM:	+61 419 303 429
victoria, Australia, 3072.	Internet: dennis.mills@mlb.dmt.csiro.au
Re: Problems with Ultimail/sendmail
#1406
Author: nsouto
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 00:00
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In <4i5g8p$jmg@asgard.mlb.dmt.csiro.au>, dcm@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Dennis Mills) writes:
>Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem?
>
>I have Ultimail set up under OS/2 Warp (correctly as far as I can tell).
>I can happily establish a SLIP connection to my service provider via the
>Network Dialler app., then start up Ultimail and read any new mail (the only
>problem being that I am always prompted for the mail server and password).
>Dennis Mills, Senior Research Engineer,		Phone:  +61 3 9662 7758
>CSIRO Division of Manufacturing Technology,	Fax:	+61 3 9662 7851
>Cnr Albert and Raglan Streets, Preston		GSM:	+61 419 303 429
>victoria, Australia, 3072.	Internet: dennis.mills@mlb.dmt.csiro.au
>
>

Hi.
Similar problem a while ago. Turns out I had installed the NETBIOS LAN side 
of TCP/IP as well, instead of just the Internet portion. 

I use WARP/Connect, so there might be a difference there too. I dunno if the 
WARP TCP/IP install is the same as for Connect. With mine, I selected the 
Selective Network Install icon in the install folder, then followed all the 
instructions. It is IMPORTANT when installing only the Internet kit to take 
the minimalist approach. Ie, if you get a settings notebook or dialogue, only 
fill in mandatory fields, even though reason might tell you to fill some of the 
others. This is VERY important.

HTH
Problems with Ultimail/sendmail
#1408
Author: Jason Allen
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 00:00
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dcm@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Dennis Mills)13 Mar 1996 03:43:21 GMT writes:

> However, whenever I attempt to send outgoing mail (either replying to
incoming
> or unsolicited) it appears that the sendmail program fails to see the tcp/ip
> stack and exits. Outgoing mail then ends up in the send queue.
> 
> Whenever I establish a SLIP connection, something recognises that a tcp/ip
> connection has been made, and Ultimail/sendmail attempts to send the queued
> messages, but it again fails ("Tcp/ip not running" or something) and
sendmail
> exits.

Whilst this is not a direct solution to your problem, I believe that you would
be a lot better off changing to another email program. Ultimail is a dog of a
program and many. many people have problems with it.  I suggest you check out
PMMAIL (my fav.) available on the AUS Hobbes mirror
(ftp.latrobe.edu.au/archive-disk3/os2)

____

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Mobile Phone: 0412-090-050  (+61-412-090-050)        @
E-Mail: jallen@pobox.com		           _[]-=\*
URL: http://www.pobox.com/~jallen	     ......(o)Z_/(o)
Honda VT250 FIID, TEAM OS/2 AUSTRALIA
____________________________________________________________

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Re: Problems with Ultimail/sendmail
#1409
Author: Barry Day
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:00
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In article <4i5g8p$jmg@asgard.mlb.dmt.csiro.au>,
dcm@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Dennis Mills) wrote:
>Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem?
>
>I have Ultimail set up under OS/2 Warp (correctly as far as I can tell).
>I can happily establish a SLIP connection to my service provider via the
>Network Dialler app., then start up Ultimail and read any new mail (the only
>problem being that I am always prompted for the mail server and password).
> [..snip..]

Have you tried John Silvia's page - he definitely has a fix for this
one. It comes up time and again.  :-)
   http://www.voicenet.com/~jsilvia/Ultimail.html
   
There may well be fixes there for the other problems you mention. I
haven't looked there for a while.


Barry

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Re: Problems with Ultimail/sendmail
#1410
Author: davisse
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 00:00
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In <4i6c35$abb@cougar.vut.edu.au>, jallen@pobox.com (Jason Allen) writes:
>dcm@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Dennis Mills)13 Mar 1996 03:43:21 GMT writes:

>> However, whenever I attempt to send outgoing mail (either replying to incoming
>> or unsolicited) it appears that the sendmail program fails to see the tcp/ip
>> stack and exits. Outgoing mail then ends up in the send queue.

>Whilst this is not a direct solution to your problem, I believe that you would
>be a lot better off changing to another email program.

I'm afraid I have to agree with this advice. Ultimail just doesn't work. I'm a registered PMMAIL fan too.
Simon
Re: Problems with Ultimail/sendmail
#1411
Author: c1saxton
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 00:00
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In <4i5g8p$jmg@asgard.mlb.dmt.csiro.au>, dcm@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Dennis Mills) writes:
>However, whenever I attempt to send outgoing mail (either replying to incoming
>or unsolicited) it appears that the sendmail program fails to see the tcp/ip
>stack and exits. Outgoing mail then ends up in the send queue.

Let me make a wild guess:  you are running Warp Connect and you did what
the instructions said and installed the Internet stuff from the Warp CD rather
than from the Bonus Pack CD.

The trouble is with a file called AFINET.SYS and you need a new version.
Point your WWW browser at http://www.voicenet.com/~jsilvia/Ultimail.html
(the capital U is important) and download the fix from there.

It worked for me.

--
Jon Saxton, NYPC OS/2 Developers' SIG coordinator
Inhabiting an OS/2 oasis in a desert of VM sand
Re: Problems with Ultimail/sendmail
#1412
Author: blurk Bernie Maier
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 00:00
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 <simon.davis@vuw.ac.nz> wrote:
>In <4i6c35$abb@cougar.vut.edu.au>, jallen@pobox.com (Jason Allen) writes:
>>dcm@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Dennis Mills)13 Mar 1996 03:43:21 GMT writes:
>
>>> However, whenever I attempt to send outgoing mail (either replying to incoming
>>> or unsolicited) it appears that the sendmail program fails to see the tcp/ip
>>> stack and exits. Outgoing mail then ends up in the send queue.
>
>>Whilst this is not a direct solution to your problem, I believe that you would
>>be a lot better off changing to another email program.
>
>I'm afraid I have to agree with this advice. Ultimail just doesn't work.
>I'm a registered PMMAIL fan too.
>Simon

I agree also, up to a point.  I ditched Ultimail (Lite!) because it was
rubbish, and at several megabytes was far from "lite".  I also got
PMMAIL and agree it's much better.  However, before I register it, can
the registered users tell me if these problems in PMMAIL are fixed in
the registered version?

1. Sometimes, PMMAIL forgets to split mail messages and I end up with one
   message in PMMAIL that contains what should be many separate mail messages.
   (This happens especially when I have a few hundred mail messages waiting
   to be collected.)

2. Since getting the IAK updates, I can't send out long mail messages.
   I get a POP socket time error of some sort, and then message message
   doesn't get sent.

3. PMMAIL uses an incorrect algorithm to separate mail messages.  Rather
   than looking for a "From" line with a timestamp, it just splits at 
   any line beginning with the word "From".  This can (and does) appear
   in the text of messages, and it's quite irritating to have messages
   split in the middle because of this.  (Of course, Ultimail had the
   same problem, only worse - it just gobbled the rest of the message!)

Although the above might sound a bit negative, I am actually reasonably
impressed with PMMAIL.

-- 
Bernie Maier                    The Internet: not so much the Information
Home: blurk@wr.com.au           Superhighway as a large, multi-storied,
Work: blurk@ot.com.au           over-crowded, Information Parking Lot.
Re: Problems with Ultimail/sendmail
#1413
Author: davisse
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 00:00
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In <4ii6vd$dta@hamlet.ot.com.au>, blurk@ (Bernie Maier) writes:
> <simon.davis@vuw.ac.nz> wrote:
>>In <4i6c35$abb@cougar.vut.edu.au>, jallen@pobox.com (Jason Allen) writes:
>>>dcm@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Dennis Mills)13 Mar 1996 03:43:21 GMT writes:
[snip]
>I agree also, up to a point.  I ditched Ultimail (Lite!) because it was
>rubbish, and at several megabytes was far from "lite".  I also got
>PMMAIL and agree it's much better.  However, before I register it, can
>the registered users tell me if these problems in PMMAIL are fixed in
>the registered version?
>
>1. Sometimes, PMMAIL forgets to split mail messages and I end up with one
>   message in PMMAIL that contains what should be many separate mail messages.
>   (This happens especially when I have a few hundred mail messages waiting
>   to be collected.)
>
>2. Since getting the IAK updates, I can't send out long mail messages.
>   I get a POP socket time error of some sort, and then message message
>   doesn't get sent.
>
>3. PMMAIL uses an incorrect algorithm to separate mail messages.  Rather
>   than looking for a "From" line with a timestamp, it just splits at 
>   any line beginning with the word "From".  This can (and does) appear
>   in the text of messages, and it's quite irritating to have messages
>   split in the middle because of this.  (Of course, Ultimail had the
>   same problem, only worse - it just gobbled the rest of the message!)
>
>Although the above might sound a bit negative, I am actually reasonably
>impressed with PMMAIL.

I haven't come across any of these bugs, but on the other hand I'm not reading the quantities you are.
The version of PMMAIL that is available (eg from BMT Micro) is the same
whether you register it or not.
We can hope, however, that the rumoured new (improved) version will appear soon.

Simon

PS The only problem I had with PMMAIL I fixed by using a different SMTP host - it had 
a minor problem talking to a VAX.
Re: Problems with Ultimail/sendmail
#1405
Author: kjkarp
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 00:00
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Dennis

You need to get an IBm ipar called ic10390.zip. It is on the IBM Australia BBS. If you have any difficulties obtaining please feel free to contact me.

Best Regards

Kevin Karp, kjkarp@pps.com.au

In <4i5g8p$jmg@asgard.mlb.dmt.csiro.au>, dcm@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Dennis Mills) writes:
>Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem?
>
>I have Ultimail set up under OS/2 Warp (correctly as far as I can tell).
>I can happily establish a SLIP connection to my service provider via the
>Network Dialler app., then start up Ultimail and read any new mail (the only
>problem being that I am always prompted for the mail server and password).
>
>However, whenever I attempt to send outgoing mail (either replying to incoming
>or unsolicited) it appears that the sendmail program fails to see the tcp/ip
>stack and exits. Outgoing mail then ends up in the send queue.
>
>Whenever I establish a SLIP connection, something recognises that a tcp/ip
>connection has been made, and Ultimail/sendmail attempts to send the queued
>messages, but it again fails ("Tcp/ip not running" or something) and sendmail
>exits.
>
>Any help would be appreciated. I believe I am running the latest Ultimail
>(retrieved from the ftp site).
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dennis
>---
>Dennis Mills, Senior Research Engineer,		Phone:  +61 3 9662 7758
>CSIRO Division of Manufacturing Technology,	Fax:	+61 3 9662 7851
>Cnr Albert and Raglan Streets, Preston		GSM:	+61 419 303 429
>victoria, Australia, 3072.	Internet: dennis.mills@mlb.dmt.csiro.au
>
>
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