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Hi Jeffrey Greenhouse
In Your case the task is very clear. Get "Graphicconverter" from any
info-mac
server. You should be abel to find it under
gst/grf/graphic-converter-231.hqx.
It will convert most of PC, ATARI, AMIGA into MAC-graphic-formats and
vice versa.
Good luck
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greenh49@wharton.upenn.edu (Jeffrey Greenhouse) writes:

>Hi,
>   I am hoping that someone out there can help me. I have a Power
>Macintosh and access to a Pentium 90, both networked, that I do graphics
>work on. I need to find a way to get graphics from either of these to an
>Amiga 2500 w/ Video Toaster that is not networked and, from what I can
>tell, can't read mac or PC formatted disks. Are there any utilities for
>the Mac or the PC that can let them read and write to Amiga formatted
>disks? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you,

This can be done using MSDOS floppies as the medium. I would suspect that 
your Amiga 2500 has at least OS 2.1 if it has a Toaster in it. CrossDOS 
came standard with OS 2.1. If you have a high density drive in the Amiga, 
you can use the 1.44MB MSDOS floppies. If it's just double density, you 
can still use the 720K.

Your PowerMac should have PC-Exchange which allows access to MSDOS 1.44MB 
or 720K. You could transfer the files on the MSDOS disks between any of 
the three systems.

A better solution if you could afford it would be (providing the Pentium 
has a SCSI controller) to use either a SyQuest or Zip drive. These will 
work on any of these three systems with SCSI. This would allow between 95 
to 127 megs of data on each cartidge at a time for greater efficiency.

If you need more details on setting this up, I could try and help. I've 
done lots of strange things, like transferring a PC zip archive from my 
Mac HD partition directly to a 1.44MB PC floppy on my Amiga. :-)

>                           Jeffrey Greenhouse
>                           greenh49@wharton.upenn.edu
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>Macintosh and access to a Pentium 90, both networked, that I do graphics
>work on. I need to find a way to get graphics from either of these to an
>Amiga 2500 w/ Video Toaster that is not networked and, from what I can
>tell, can't read mac or PC formatted disks. Are there any utilities for
>the Mac or the PC that can let them read and write to Amiga formatted
>disks? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you,

The PC cannot read Amiga format and I don't believe the Mac can either.  
All three machines, however, can read MSDOS formatted disks.  I'm not 
sure how to do it on the Mac (is it included in the OS?) but with the 
Amiga, you should get CrossDos.  It is a commercial package but is 
included with Workbench 2.1 and greater.  If you are not using Workbench 
2.1, let me tell you that it is definitely worth upgrading (or even to 
3.1).  

I believe there is also a shareware program on Aminet that lets the Amiga 
read/write PC disks.  I think it's called MessyDOS but I'm really not 
familiar with it.  

Of course, there is one minor inconvenience in using PC disks with the 
Amiga; you can only use 720K MSDOS disks if your Amiga doesn't have a 
high density floppy (ie: it is an 880K).

Hope this helps.  If you have any further questions or need help locating 
anything, please ask!

Trevor Rankin (v4jk@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca) wrote:
: >Macintosh and access to a Pentium 90, both networked, that I do graphics
: >work on. I need to find a way to get graphics from either of these to an
: >Amiga 2500 w/ Video Toaster that is not networked and, from what I can
: >tell, can't read mac or PC formatted disks. Are there any utilities for
: >the Mac or the PC that can let them read and write to Amiga formatted
: >disks? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you,

: The PC cannot read Amiga format and I don't believe the Mac can either.  
: All three machines, however, can read MSDOS formatted disks.  I'm not 
: sure how to do it on the Mac (is it included in the OS?) but with the 

MacOS 7.5 has a thing similar to CrossDOS. It's a system extension.
Lets the Mac read from/write to MS-DOS formats. Works fine for me
under shapeshifter. It'll even sniff the files on the disk, and
figure out what they are and put up the appropriate icons for them.


: Amiga, you should get CrossDos.  It is a commercial package but is 
: included with Workbench 2.1 and greater.  If you are not using Workbench 
: 2.1, let me tell you that it is definitely worth upgrading (or even to 
: 3.1).  

: I believe there is also a shareware program on Aminet that lets the Amiga 
: read/write PC disks.  I think it's called MessyDOS but I'm really not 
: familiar with it.  

: Of course, there is one minor inconvenience in using PC disks with the 
: Amiga; you can only use 720K MSDOS disks if your Amiga doesn't have a 
: high density floppy (ie: it is an 880K).

In this day and age, it would behoove any Amiga user who needs
data exchange with other systems to go buy a high density floppy drive.
I use the Dell drive (about $120 at dealers). No problems with it at
all. Tiny. quiet. inconspicuous. Doesn't embarass itself at parties :)

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Jeffrey Greenhouse wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>    I am hoping that someone out there can help me. I have a Power
> Macintosh and access to a Pentium 90, both networked, that I do graphics
> work on. I need to find a way to get graphics from either of these to an
> Amiga 2500 w/ Video Toaster that is not networked and, from what I can
> tell, can't read mac or PC formatted disks. Are there any utilities for
> the Mac or the PC that can let them read and write to Amiga formatted
> disks? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you,
> 
>                            Jeffrey Greenhouse
>                            greenh49@wharton.upenn.edu
>

Well, this depends on what OS you have! If you have 2.1, or later, then 
you can simply use PC File Exchange as used on the Mac System 7.5 
extensions, and simply transfer between systems using either DD floppies 
(if all you have is a 880k drive), or HD (1.44MB) using an Amiga HD drive 
(I paid $95 at my local Amiga dealer -- thanks, Dan!) like the Dell for 
~$120. Even the last 20 disks from NewTek are in Amiga HD format, so an 
HD floppy is getting to be more of a requisite item these days IMHO. BTW, 
I would *highly* recommend that you get the commercial release of Cross 
MAC, as it adds greater flexibility to your system. God Bless, ILBCNU!



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I went to an infomac site an could only find it in french and german....

Jeffrey Greenhouse (greenh49@wharton.upenn.edu) wrote:
> Hi,
>    I am hoping that someone out there can help me. I have a Power
> Macintosh and access to a Pentium 90, both networked, that I do graphics
> work on. I need to find a way to get graphics from either of these to an
> Amiga 2500 w/ Video Toaster that is not networked and, from what I can
> tell, can't read mac or PC formatted disks. Are there any utilities for
> the Mac or the PC that can let them read and write to Amiga formatted
> disks? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you,
>

Perhaps I'm missing the point, but why not use a null-modem cable and a
terminal program on each machine. I know little about graphics, but I
thought the files were enormous - and a DD floppy, which is the best
you're going to get, will be very labour-intensive. Or are you short of
ports, or something? (Maybe the machines are miles apart?)

Anyway, I'm not sure of the specifics - we have Parnet or Sernet for Amiga
to Amiga, but if you ask here (comp.sys.amiga.misc) I'm sure someone will
help you.

John

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Hi Jeffrey Greenhouse,
On 08-mrt-96 05:08:11 you wrote about Need to get graphics from Mac/PC to Amiga.

 JG> I need to find a way to get graphics from either of these to an
 JG> Amiga 2500 w/ Video Toaster that is not networked and, from what I can
 JG> tell, can't read mac or PC formatted disks. Are there any utilities for
 JG> the Mac or the PC that can let them read and write to Amiga formatted
 JG> disks?

Not that I know of, but if you have OS 2.04 (or was it 2.1) or better you
just have to mount PCx: (CrossDOS) and you can read/write MSDOS formatted
disks.

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Jeffrey Greenhouse (greenh49@wharton.upenn.edu) wrote:
>    I am hoping that someone out there can help me. I have a Power
> Macintosh and access to a Pentium 90, both networked, that I do graphics
> work on. I need to find a way to get graphics from either of these to an
> Amiga 2500 w/ Video Toaster that is not networked and, from what I can
> tell, can't read mac or PC formatted disks. Are there any utilities for
> the Mac or the PC that can let them read and write to Amiga formatted
> disks? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you,

The company Consultron has produced two packages called respectively 
"CrossDOS" and "CrossMAC" which are file systems from the Amiga and gives 
it the ability to read/write PC/Mac disks. From version 2.1 (i think it 
was) of the Amiga operative system the crossdos package came with the 
machine.

Or you could get a "normal" serial cable and a mac one and plug the two 
machines together. Then get a terminal program for each.
"Z-Term" a shareware program for the Macintosh and "NComm" (or perhaps 
"Term") for the Amiga, make sure they talk at the same speed, 57600 is 
possibly a good one. Use the Zmodem transfer protocol to transfer a lot 
of files in one go.

It's a lot slower than a network but it's cheeper than buying an ethernet 
card for the Amiga :)

I should think http://www.jumbo.com can provide the necessary software.

Remco van Hooff wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeffrey Greenhouse,
> On 08-mrt-96 05:08:11 you wrote about Need to get graphics from Mac/PC to Amiga.
> 
>  JG> I need to find a way to get graphics from either of these to an
>  JG> Amiga 2500 w/ Video Toaster that is not networked and, from what I can
>  JG> tell, can't read mac or PC formatted disks. Are there any utilities for
>  JG> the Mac or the PC that can let them read and write to Amiga formatted
>  JG> disks?
> 
> Not that I know of, but if you have OS 2.04 (or was it 2.1) or better you
> just have to mount PCx: (CrossDOS) and you can read/write MSDOS formatted
> disks.


You're in luck! I had a similar problem linking a 1200, 4000, and a 
PC.  At the world 'o' AMIGA show I purchased A program designed to link 
amiga to pc, amiga to amiga or pc to pc. Link-It! is it's name and
it was a lifesaver for me because i did not want to buy an ether-card
it comes with software for amiga and pc and a high speed parallel cable
but supports serial as well...

perhaps this is what you need

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Patrick Roy Anthony wrote:
> 
> Remco van Hooff wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jeffrey Greenhouse,
> > On 08-mrt-96 05:08:11 you wrote about Need to get graphics from Mac/PC to Amiga.
> >
> >  JG> I need to find a way to get graphics from either of these to an
> >  JG> Amiga 2500 w/ Video Toaster that is not networked and, from what I can
> >  JG> tell, can't read mac or PC formatted disks. Are there any utilities for
> >  JG> the Mac or the PC that can let them read and write to Amiga formatted
> >  JG> disks?
>

Another way, if you're running an OS earlier than AmigaOS 2.1 and therefore
cannot read PC disks, would be to get hold of a shareware program called
MessyDos. It is available from AmiNet, installs quite easily, and givet
old Amigas the ability to read/write PC diskettes. Just remember that
old Amigas used double density diskettes, not high density - you therefore
must put your data on 760KB diskettes, not 1.44M. (that is, you use normal
PC diskettes but format them as 760KB).

And no - it appears there's no way to get PCs to read Amiga 880KB double density
diskettes.