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Re: Arny Kruegers rants about the Live! rejected

#293
From: Arny Krueger
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 02:35
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"Ulrich Grassberger" <grasso@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> >> >Yeah, Arny misinterprets most results because he does not have
the
> >appropriate background knowledge.
> >
> >> I'm not going to argue with you about this :-)

> >I feel like I'm a dam that has been attacked by ants... ;-)

> So you�re heading to the water where the piranhas wait. Imagine...

Mr. Grasso I've always been there. When I first posted a few simple
reviews at www.rockpark.com I was greeted with a lot of anger because
I characterized the SB16 in less than totally complementary terms.
Those were straightforward clear attacks for an understandable even
predictable reason.  There was nothing sneaky about them. People had
concerns and stated them, rather than waiting for the moment when
criticism would be most uncomfortable and then dumping on a person.

> >> >Yeah, he seems to mess up some things some times. If the
results are
> >> >strange he doesn�t bother to investigate further, to
investigate if HE
> >> >HIMSELF might have made a mistake instead of the soundcard
being
> >bad.

> >Mr. Grasso seems to have added mind reading to his inestimable
talents.

> No no. If I review a soundcard I normally end up writing endless
stuff
> about drivers, backgrounds, basics. (
> grassomusic.de/english/tunings.htm ) Because it is that
complicated.

Mr. Grasso unlike you I don't go around publicly stabbing people in
the back just because they are not made in my image.

I think that the things that you propose to do are excellent things.
I think that you should do them. But you should respect other people
who take some other path if that path is helpful to many people and
is based on telling the truth.

> Would soundcard engineers and developers make mistakes if it wasn�t
complicated?

What is your point? Sure some soundcards are strongly affected by
mistakes. The Layla24 is a good case of that.

However I don't think that there are many mistakes in a card like the
Live!. I think it is pretty much what Creative Labs wants it to be. I
may not agree with all of their decisions, but I don't think that
they are properly called mistakes.

>And soundcars (sic) aren't�t black boxes: Just think about  drivers;
if you know why it is the way it is you might be able to tell if a
driver revision could fix or break it. If a new driver is  released
you should make up your mind about how great the possibility  for
changes is, and maybe redo some tests.

Mr. Grasso I agree with that. Are you suggesting that I NEVER redo
tests when new drivers come out?

Mr. Grasso, how many sound cards have you reviewed to the same
standard as your tests of the SBLive! ? I have reviewed about 50
cards. People are constantly pressing me to review more cards, not do
more extensive work on the reviews that I have already done. If I
were to do reviews every time a new driver comes out I might be
redoing some reviews every week. Is that humanly possible when
someone has about 50 soundcard reviews to keep up with?

> >> >Many: grassomusic.de/english/rauschen.htm midi.htm#ct4830
sb.htm

>> I couldn't get this link to work?

> It�s three links, don�t you see the spaces?

Mr. Grasso, don't you know that spaces are allowed within URLs. Ever
hear of commas? Ever hear of adding www at the front of a URL to make
sure that there is no mistake in people's minds that this is a URL?

>  The path is
> grassomusic.de/english, and the pages in that directory are
> rauschen.htm midi.htm and sb.htm . I could also write <a
> href="http://grassomusic.de/english/rauschen.htm">this link</a> for
> Outlook users but I think most Usenet people know how to cut and
> paste.

Mr. Grasso, why force people who would not need to cut and past do
so?

> >Is this an example of Mr. Grasso's ability to get *everything*
> >right? Let's not get into the fact that his site is a mass of
broken
> >links.

> Huh? And your site was taken over by chinese DNS pirates because
> pxcavetexx is an adress so shiny, I know. I wish I had your
> imaginative power.

Huh?

The person who stole my web site no doubt did so because he
appreciated its content. M.r Grasso if you clean up your web site and
make it easier to read, you might have it stolen by some other person
for the same reason! ;-)
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