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In article <78@alchemy.UUCP> hzink@alchemy.UUCP (Harry K. Zink) writes:
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>Personally I really do not see the use in all this fuss over putting 
>disinfectant with a minimum system on a floppy.  What is the problem?  Those 
>that know how to create such disk wouldnot waste their time downloading suhc a 
>huge file, and those who are clueless about creating a system disk with just 
>system and finder plus the disinfectant application on it, will most likely 
>also by baffled by the taks of using Diskcopy or Stuffit to create their disk.
>
>Could someone please clarify to 'moi' poor lost soul why this seems to be such 
>an important issue?

Well, I don't know if it is an *important* issue, but I thought an
application that automatically puts Disinfectant and a minimal system
on a floppy would be nice for users less technical than ourselves.

Granted, if Stuffit and DiskCopy were used, it would be pointless.
What I had in mind was a file that you download and then double-click
on to activate.  It would then create the Disinfectant bootable floppy
automatically.  All the user would do is lock and label the floppy.

Using the auto-unstuffing application doesn't quite fit what I'm
thinking about since you would only get the *files* and not the
original disk *image*.  I think the image would best since you
could be sure that the resulting disk was clean.  In the file
scenario you possibly put the files on an already infected floppy.

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C'mon guys!  All you have to do is:

a) Format a floppy
b) Drag Disinfectant 2.0 to it
c) Drag the System and Finder *files* to it (note: no System Folder)

That's it!  (Note: make sure your System isn't too gorged with fonts &
DAs!)

We need an application to do this?  Sheesh.

Tim
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In article <TJFS.90Jul19130259@tadtec.uucp> tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele) writes:
>C'mon guys!  All you have to do is:
>
[instructions deleted]
>
>That's it!  (Note: make sure your System isn't too gorged with fonts &
>DAs!)
>
>We need an application to do this?  Sheesh.

Either someone's news reader isn't in synch or I didn't make myself
clear the first couple of times.

The whole point is to make it easy for USERS LESS TECHNICAL THAN
OURSELVES!  I know of several Mac users in my area who wouldn't
even know where to *find* the system file or that it even exists.
All they do is run applications.  They'd never make heads or tails
of the instructions above, but they'd still like to check their
systems for viri.

If all they do is run applications then how do they even get the
file, you ask?  Easy!  I mail it to them (via QuickMail...real easy)
or they get it off of a public server (easy, too).  There are other
easy ways that a non-techie could get the program, so I'd like a
non-techie way to get a *CLEAN* *BOOTABLE* copy to them (other than
the US mail).
 
Oh, well.... I guess I'd better start licking stamps.....
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In article <1990Jul20.003127.9742@swbatl.sbc.com> george@swbatl.UUCP (George D. Nincehelser) writes:
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>The whole point is to make it easy for USERS LESS TECHNICAL THAN
>OURSELVES!  I know of several Mac users in my area who wouldn't
>even know where to *find* the system file or that it even exists.

At some point, we start doing a disservice to "users less technical
than ourselves" by not encouraging them to acquire some level of
knowledge about such "technical" things as the fact that there is
a system and where it is. Perhaps fear of virus infection can provide
the needed motivation to empower these users by putting a little bit
of knowledge in their hands. In the long run, it'll make them better,
certainly more independent, computer users (IMHO).

Sherman Wilcox
University of New Mexico
Dept. of Linguistics

In article <1990Jul20.134951.4832@ariel.unm.edu> wilcox@hydra.unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) writes:
>In article <1990Jul20.003127.9742@swbatl.sbc.com> george@swbatl.UUCP (George D. Nincehelser) writes:
>>
>>The whole point is to make it easy for USERS LESS TECHNICAL THAN
>>OURSELVES!  ...
>
>At some point, we start doing a disservice to "users less technical
>than ourselves" by not encouraging them to acquire some level of
>knowledge about such "technical" things ....

At the same time, there are those users who would say, in essence, "If
I have to do something to make it work, I just won't do it at all."
In general, those users are supported in some way, shape or form by
those of us who do know what we're doing, but personally stepping in
to set up the disk for them could potentially be a pain.  In most
instances, those sort of situations can be handled by physical
distribution of the disk, though.

Never underestimate the ability of the users to screw things up,
however.  I'm sure that if someone did set up a Disinfectant installer
as described, someone would screw up using it if at all possible.  My
old company used to amaze several clients by fixing their system very
quickly when someone came out to look at a problem.  It was fairly
simple; all they had to do was call up Find File, look for System, and
remove the half-dozen extra system folders that had been installed
along with new software packages.  Between the client's pleasure, and
the fact that the company had just made some easy money off of someone
else's stupidity, my boss was real happy :-).
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R David Francis   francis@cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <1990Jul19.015753.12944@swbatl.sbc.com> george@swbatl.UUCP (George D. Nincehelser) writes:
>
>Well, I don't know if it is an *important* issue, but I thought an
>application that automatically puts Disinfectant and a minimal system
>on a floppy would be nice for users less technical than ourselves.

I found the instructions in the program reasonable and accurate.  

I would also like to applaud the author of Disinfectant for the quality of the
software and the price.  Thanks for the Great Work and quality program.

-Mike

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