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In article <julie-1402000858280001@1cust20.tnt1.syd2.da.uu.net>, 
julie@auroramedia.net (Julie Simpson) wrote:

> Please excuse me if this is a terminally stupid question, but...
> 
> I want to install a 2nd ATA drive into my G4, a 20Gb IBM Deskstar.  I've
> read the instructions in the booklet that came with the computer, but the
> bracket that sits in drive position #3 is wider at the top than at the
> bottom where the first drive is located.  Is there some kind of extra
> bracket that I need to purchase in order to fit the second drive into the
> top position of drive position #3?  The current bracket is - deliberately,
> it seems to me - about 3-4mm too wide to accommodate the drive.
> 
> Do I use longer screws? I'm reluctant to do this in case I damage the
> drive?  A friend told me that the apple service place that installed her
> second drive simply bent the existing bracket to take her second drive,
> but this seems an incredibly clumsy kludge to me - why is the bracket
> designed that wide if it needs to be bent to hold the drive?
> 
> Puzzled,

If it were me, I would just screw it into one side of the bracket. or 
bend the bracket. Its only a bracket after all.
 Drives are not all exactly the same size, a range of a couple of mm  is 
not that unusual. The brackets are also not made with real precision 
tolerances either. It may just have gotten bent wider when the botton 
drive was put in. 3 or 4 mm should actually allow you to screw in the 
drive on both sides with a minimum of bending.

In article <julie-1402000858280001@1cust20.tnt1.syd2.da.uu.net>,
julie@auroramedia.net (Julie Simpson) wrote:

>Please excuse me if this is a terminally stupid question, but...
>
>I want to install a 2nd ATA drive into my G4, a 20Gb IBM Deskstar.  I've
>read the instructions in the booklet that came with the computer, but the
>bracket that sits in drive position #3 is wider at the top than at the
>bottom where the first drive is located.  Is there some kind of extra
>bracket that I need to purchase in order to fit the second drive into the
>top position of drive position #3?  The current bracket is - deliberately,
>it seems to me - about 3-4mm too wide to accommodate the drive.
>
>Do I use longer screws? I'm reluctant to do this in case I damage the
>drive?  A friend told me that the apple service place that installed her
>second drive simply bent the existing bracket to take her second drive,
>but this seems an incredibly clumsy kludge to me - why is the bracket
>designed that wide if it needs to be bent to hold the drive?
>
>Puzzled,
>
>Julie

There are detailed instructions in the G4 Manual that came with the
machine - the screws are provided - yes - you do bent the plate to screw
everything together - not a big deal - pretty much plug and play - after
you've got everything attached (power and IDE cable) - of course remember
to turn the power off when you're doing this - reboot and go to the Drive
Setup - initialize and format the drive and away you go - real easy - i've
got a Seagate 28G Barracuda in mine....

Hope this helps.

james

In article
<jamesyee-1302002242400001@adsl-209-233-25-202.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net>,
jamesyee@earthlink.net (james yee) wrote:

> There are detailed instructions in the G4 Manual that came with the
> machine - the screws are provided - yes - you do bent the plate to screw
> everything together - not a big deal - pretty much plug and play - after
> you've got everything attached (power and IDE cable) - of course remember
> to turn the power off when you're doing this - reboot and go to the Drive
> Setup - initialize and format the drive and away you go - real easy - i've
> got a Seagate 28G Barracuda in mine....

Thanks James. Yes, I read the instructions, and with the help of a friend
who is a little less squeamish than I am about bending parts of new
computers, have installed the drive.  I guess I was just surprised by the
fact that while the lower slot of this drive bay is perfectly
proportioned, the upper slot is deliberately designed to be too large.
Perhaps this is, as 'id_est' who also replied to me suggested, because
some drives are different sizes.  It just struck me as somewhat clumsy. 
I'm somehow unreasonably squeamish about forcing anything to do with
high-tech equipment. Silly me.

Thanks for the help.

Julie

In article <julie-1402000858280001@1cust20.tnt1.syd2.da.uu.net>, Julie
Simpson <julie@auroramedia.net> wrote:

> Do I use longer screws? I'm reluctant to do this in case I damage the
> drive?  A friend told me that the apple service place that installed her
> second drive simply bent the existing bracket to take her second drive,
> but this seems an incredibly clumsy kludge to me - why is the bracket
> designed that wide if it needs to be bent to hold the drive?

Well as you tighten the screws the bracket does bend; it's cool. I'm
not sure why it's wider, perhaps to accomodate drives like the Seagate
that have a rubber(-like?) surround. I installed a 20 GB Western
Digital in the upper bay like this, but (a) the G4 felt really
unbalanced with the weight of the 2 drives at the back, and worse (b)
the vibration produced an awful hum amplified by the desk-unit where I
kept my G4. Drove me up the wall.

Eventually, I took it out and put it in the middle bay alongside the
other drive and it was MUCH better. I had to get another cable that was
long enough to let me mount the drives side by side but it was worth
it...

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In article <150220000010585954%sw@nan.co.uk>, Sak Wathanasin
<sw@nan.co.uk> wrote:

> Well as you tighten the screws the bracket does bend; it's cool. I'm
> not sure why it's wider, perhaps to accomodate drives like the Seagate
> that have a rubber(-like?) surround. I installed a 20 GB Western
> Digital in the upper bay like this, but (a) the G4 felt really
> unbalanced with the weight of the 2 drives at the back, and worse (b)
> the vibration produced an awful hum amplified by the desk-unit where I
> kept my G4. Drove me up the wall.
> 
> Eventually, I took it out and put it in the middle bay alongside the
> other drive and it was MUCH better. I had to get another cable that was
> long enough to let me mount the drives side by side but it was worth
> it...

Yes, but I'm saving bay one and two for some nice SCSI drives :)

Thanks for the advice.  I didn't know the Seagate was slightly bigger.

Julie