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8 total messages Started by Lester Ward Tue, 11 Aug 1992 14:48
NeXT as Mac server?
#439
Author: Lester Ward
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 14:48
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We have a single NeXTstation that we'd like to turn into a file-server
for our programmers.  The five Mac ci's they work on are all ethernet
compatible and have their own IP numbers.

Does anyone know what is involved in setting this up?

Les
Re: NeXT as Mac server?
#442
Author: M Carling
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 17:05
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In article <ward1.713544494@husc8> ward1@husc8.harvard.edu (Lester Ward)  
writes:
> We have a single NeXTstation that we'd like to turn into a file-server
> for our programmers.  The five Mac ci's they work on are all ethernet
> compatible and have their own IP numbers.
> 
> Does anyone know what is involved in setting this up?

There is some software called uShare from IPT (Information Presentation  
Technologies) that does this. They are in San Luis Obispo, CA. Their  
number is 800-233-9993.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
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Re: NeXT as Mac server?
#445
Author: David Lemson
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 18:32
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In article <ward1.713544494@husc8> ward1@husc8.harvard.edu (Lester Ward)  
writes:
> We have a single NeXTstation that we'd like to turn into a file-server
> for our programmers.  The five Mac ci's they work on are all ethernet
> compatible and have their own IP numbers.
> 
> Does anyone know what is involved in setting this up?
> 
> Les
There are a couple of options.  You can use GatorShare, from Cayman, which  
will let your Macs talk to the NeXT via NFS (the NeXT is the server),
Phone: 617-494-1999
There are probably other Mac NFS clients out there.
There is uShare from Information Presentation Technologies, Inc.  This  
supports printer sharing, also. Phone: 805-541-3000.
There is the CAP 6.0 package, which is a freely available package from  
Columbia University that lets your NeXT be an AppleShare server that your  
Macs can talk to via EtherTalk (no LocalTalk, but you are in the right  
situation for this one).  One source (given to me by archie) is:
emx.cc.utexas.edu:/pub/mnt/source/appletalk/cap-6.0.
I have heard that this compiles OK for NeXTs, although I have not  
attempted to do it myself.
--
David Lemson                                           (312) 732-4741
FNBC Sys Admin (Summer) UIUC NeXT Campus Consultant(rest of the time)
E-mail to: lemson@fnbc.com                          NeXTMail accepted
Re: NeXT as Mac server?
#450
Author: Johnny Borders
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 04:22
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lemson@fnbc.com (David Lemson) writes:

>In article <ward1.713544494@husc8> ward1@husc8.harvard.edu (Lester Ward)  
>writes:

>There are a couple of options.  You can use GatorShare, from Cayman, which  
>will let your Macs talk to the NeXT via NFS (the NeXT is the server),

CLARIFICATION (important enough to post. :)..
GatorShare is software that runs on a GatorBox router, not an actual UNIX
host (at least, this is what's detailed in an article in MacWorld August :)
Since the GatorBox is extremely intelligent, it just makes the link between
the Mac and NeXT, so the NeXT only has to know that it's an NFS host and 
the GatorBox does the rest (with some configuring on it, of course). I love
the GatorBox! :)
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Re: NeXT as Mac server?
#451
Author: nevin
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 04:33
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In article <ward1.713544494@husc8> ward1@husc8.harvard.edu (Lester Ward)  
writes:
> We have a single NeXTstation that we'd like to turn into a file-server
> for our programmers.  The five Mac ci's they work on are all ethernet
> compatible and have their own IP numbers.
> 
> Does anyone know what is involved in setting this up?
> 
> Les

First, buy ethernet cards for the Macs.
Second, either buy NFS client software for the Macs, or buy Appleshare
server software for the NeXT.

We are considering uShare (in the 3rd party catalog) to do this very
thing.  Furthermore, we are considering adding an external hard drive
to the NeXT, formatted as a Mac drive, and using it for the uShare
volume (under NeXTSTEP 3.0).  That way, if we choose, we can always
unplug the drive and plug it into any Mac, and everything still works.

We already run uShare on a Sun server and use it as a file server
to our Macs.  Can't see why running the NeXT version would be any
different.

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Re: NeXT as Mac server?
#694
Author: Rolfe Tessem
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:06
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In article <ward1.713544494@husc8> ward1@husc8.harvard.edu (Lester Ward)  
writes:
> We have a single NeXTstation that we'd like to turn into a file-server
> for our programmers.  The five Mac ci's they work on are all ethernet
> compatible and have their own IP numbers.
> 
> Does anyone know what is involved in setting this up?
> 
> Les

You can install CAP, although currently it requires an Ethernet/Localtalk  
router like a Fastpath or Gatorbox.  I don't know whether 3.0's support for  
Appletalk in the kernel will change this, but I would think it should.  Other  
than that glitch, CAP works great and is fairly mature at this point.
-- 
Rolfe Tessem				Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com				New York City
(212) 463-0029				(212) 463-7049 fax
Re: NeXT as Mac server?
#721
Author: Andrew Loewenstern
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:11
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In article <1992Aug12.140612.10627@ldp.com> rolfe@ldp.com writes:
>In article <ward1.713544494@husc8> ward1@husc8.harvard.edu (Lester Ward)  
>writes:
>> We have a single NeXTstation that we'd like to turn into a file-server
>> for our programmers.  The five Mac ci's they work on are all ethernet
>> compatible and have their own IP numbers.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what is involved in setting this up?
>> 
>> Les
>
>You can install CAP, although currently it requires an Ethernet/Localtalk  
>router like a Fastpath or Gatorbox.  I don't know whether 3.0's support for  
>Appletalk in the kernel will change this, but I would think it should.  Other 
>than that glitch, CAP works great and is fairly mature at this point.

No, 3.0 only lets you become an AppleShare _client_ and not a
sever.  You'll need something like uShare to get the Macs talking
TCP/IP and NFS to let the NeXT be a server.


andrew
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Andrew Loewenstern      |  And the end of our exploring
Cube Technologies, Inc. |  Will be to arrive where we started
                        |  And know the place for the first time." -T.S. Eliot
Re: NeXT as Mac server?
#730
Author: Eric P. Scott
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:30
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In article <1992Aug13.041127.8872@cubetech.com>
	andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) writes:
>No, 3.0 only lets you become an AppleShare _client_ and not a
>sever.  You'll need something like uShare to get the Macs talking
>TCP/IP and NFS to let the NeXT be a server.

I think you missed the point; improvements in 3.0 (relative to
2.x) will make it significantly easier to adapt things like
CAP and netatalk to run "native."

My only direct experience with uShare is with the Sun version.
Let's just say that I'm not impressed; it does pretty much the
bare minimum.  Even if uShare were free and didn't have obnoxious
copy protection, I'd prefer one of the others.

Fortunately for IPT, NeXT "forgot" to send me 3.0 prereleases, so
I haven't been personally responsible for decimating their market
share.  Someone else probably will.

					-=EPS=-
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